I agree about some women encouraging certain behavior through ego centered manipulation. Feeding ego by manipulating males. Especially the nice ones who don't deserve it. But never giving up is important as long as you're aspiring for what's right. It's not exactly as much a social misconception as is the illusion that certain goals are out of your reach or that you are unworthy/inadequate.
well...
what i will suggest is that he chose poorly.
got himself involved with a women who is of lower moral caliber than he is or that had no real interest in him in the first place.
and there lies the lesson.
problem is many do not wish to learn and males get mixed messages from parents peers and x partners and society about never giving up and never taking no for an answer so society creates male stalkers and a very large proportion of women encourage it by the way they live in society.
I think the social aspect has more to do with gender roles. There is nobody more repressed or pressured than males. If they don't get the girl they're suckers so they have to get the girl. If you don't get the girl, you're a loser. And to get the girl, you are told not to show interest in her at the same time as you are told to be a man and claim her as yours.
The whole stalker thing is definitely an issue girls have to face, but it's also something people frivilously impose on each other to the point that people are afraid to talk to eachother out of fear of being coming off creepy. All of a sudden everybody is a stalker. And girls will frame guys as stalkers in order to manipulate them. There are so many underhanded ways to invalidate somebody (make somebody feel bad) without them ever knowing you're doing it. And invalidation is such a major issue in social interactions.
Discussions are not about winning/losing as if you're trying to sell something. They're about sharing ideas and coming to conclusions about them. As soon as you start using manipulative communication (ie ad hom and many others), all you're doing is turning it into a win/lose debate instead of an actual discussion. State your points clearly, support them, agree/disagree, share your views on the matter. If you want to continue to throw tantrums or continue to try to manipulate me to into entertaining adhom nonsense by imposing reasons other than what I've stated, you might as well get lost. So am I not answering your adhom question because I'm trying to be right or because I don't respond to adhom ever in any discussion period?Whether you define him as "nice" or not is irrelevent... he got the azz-end of the stick cause he was a azzhole.!!!
Its obvous that ad-hominim ant the reason you wont apply you'r argument to you'r own self... cause then you woud have to agree wit my above statment (see statment above)... ie... you'r jus arguein to be rite.!!!
The only time I would "have" to agree with your statement is if you actually make it clear exactly what it is you're saying, and supporting it with reasonable ideas instead of going into a mad frenzy about the matter. Considering all the garbage, I don't even know what it is that you are claiming I am so hell bent on being right about. Why is it so difficult for people to stop trying to manipulate discussions, and just share your views. If you agree/disagree, see any flaws in anything somebody is saying, or have anything to contribute, simply discuss it.
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