Xev
Originally posted by Xev
Chosen:
I do not care what is perfectly fine in society. Women are game playing manipulators too.
And I am a veritable Empress of manipulation. The difference being - I know what I am, and why I do what I do, and I don't manipulate those I respect.
And can you show me where I mentioned
anything about manipulating the people I respect?
Anyway answer the big question:
HOW and WHY is it manipulative?
Anyway
Xev, I have a feeling you would break many guys hearts. If a nice and desperate guy trys to hook up with you, you don't respect him, and you would manipulate him, since you don't respect him.
Who respects whiny, needy, clingy, supplicating type of people?
The absolutely strong person does not need other humans. At all.
And you're right, you would hate to see that definition. It would frighten you.
Then live a very lonely life. I agree that the "absolutely strong person" does not need other humans.
11: Learn to keep people dependent on you.
20: Do not commit to anyone.
I do not want to become so powerful that I lose sight of what a human being and love is all about.
Of course I will commit. Commitment is a weakness - I gurantee you that.
That is one weakness that I will gladly take up.
There are no valid claims - it is weak. You are trying to manipulate people, to control them. Yet in the end, you are being controlled.
You might as well say
Joeman,
Adam, and the rest of everyone elses advice is weak, since they aren't "valid" claims to you.
Once again you make a
BASELESS CLAIM Xev.
How am I trying to manipulate? How am I trying to control? Sure I am being controlled, you are loopholing the entire idea.
It's like saying since I got hurt by a sword. Then I train to defend myself against the sword, then I master the sword, you would say the sword is "controlling" me, but in fact it is not.
Since I got hurt, I
responded in an act of self-defence, and thus I learned my errors on WHY I got hurt and HOW I got hurt and thus have some control over the sword.
Same thing applies to women.
Xev, basically you have very weak claims against me, thus you are the weak one. I always give
REASONS, examples, to my claims. You on the other hand, like everyone else that is
"anti-Chosen" have failed.
I come into this site with a very unique and different perspective, and as a result of expressing myself I am insulted at, criticized, and all that.
Remember what
Avatar said? When he got into that debate with the Christians and how he totally used logic and out-debated them? All thanks to sciforums.com and how it informed him of "international knowledge/wisdom" and opened his mind? (
Avatar, correct me if I am wrong about you)
Apply that situation to how I have visited so many forums, just think about that for a moment.
I do not think there's anything morally wrong with it - being a consummate immoralist, that's unlikely anyway.
And yes, weak women do fall for those types of men. I've never said they didn't.
No, REAL WOMEN fall for those type of men. Confident, humourous, men who KNOW HOW to RESPOND to them and their needs/wants.
Umm....Chosen, if you scared me, I'd be either hitting on you or trying to destroy you. *Smiles*
Hmm...you can come wrestle with me on a bed...just ask
Xev...
Silly Chosen, what makes you think I haven't?
Are you asking me to list "turn-ons"?
Why not?
In the sense that power implies confidence.
Women want powerful males.
Sure there.
Neutral on that. A sense of humour is niether a plus nor minus.
Sure there.
Uh huh
No. Unless in the sense that - how do I put this - one who was able to renounce the need for human companionship is non-desperate.
I'm talking about attraction and not long terms.
Thanks. But I don't. I am in the process of overcoming the urge to dominate others. Nietzsche's contrast between the barbarian and the acetic. I'm somewhere in the middle at the moment.
From what I have observed and from many others, women like to be dominated, not in the sense that you totally run their lives, but in the sense that you are direct, you speak your mind, you aren't afraid and self-conscious, you don't seek approval, etc.