*************Sufi said:
M*W: Welcome to sciforums, and thank you for your post. It is wise. Perhaps that's what "I AM" meant when God tried to explain it to Moses.
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M*W: Welcome to sciforums, and thank you for your post. It is wise. Perhaps that's what "I AM" meant when God tried to explain it to Moses.
fadeaway humper said:Oh, come on, Knife, you KNOW what kind of "madrasas" I was talking about: those zombie factories where chained children are obsessibily forced to memorize the Koran. I'm pretty sure the one you attended wasn't anything like that.
About the link, sure, there you go:
http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html
It obviously doesn't cover everything, but the basics are definitely there. Borrowing from the old rabi: "the rest is commentary". Now we only need to deify it (maybe with the aid of very loud megaphony and some cool FX) and we've got ourselves a pretty reasonable "religion" for everyone to follow.
And the Declaration is Most Wise, Most Merciful
thanks for the link. now just point in the direction of the country amd/or people that actually follow them, and i will up and leave tomorrow.
they cover pretty much all of it. and as you said, the rest is commentary.
now the devils advocate, it doesnt seem that they have doen much good for the cause of peace, neither the articles nor the UN. it doenst seem that the United Nations seem very united. and they cant seem to do anything but make statements. they didnt prevent the problems with we have with afghanistan, and i am talking about when the USSR wanted a peice of them. they didnt stop the genocide in rwanda. civil war in Sudan. they havent got the israeilis to move back to the 1967 borders, or to tell the palestinians they arent going to get all the land back. didnt stop saddam from doing damage to his own people. didnt end vietnam earlier that it should have. they are refusing to do anything in iraq today. not getting women to drive in saudi arabia. etc.
i am not saying the articles in themselves arent good. they are very well written actually (cant argue with any of them), but i dont see them being of any use except another means of "control", not only that i dont see one country that actually appplies them.
come to think of it, it just seems like someone summarized and compiled some of the major religions in to 30 long sentences.
peace.
*************Sufi said:
M*W: No. I believe the One Spirit of God has always existed in the form of pure positive creative energy. Although I have always "assumed" that Moses existed, it's quite possible that he was only a character in myth and that the stories told about him were parables. My own personal belief about Moses is that he was a Pharaoh.
Well there is some evidence to show he might have actually been based upon Sargon, even down to very close similarities surrounding their births..
From the legend of sargon:
"... My changeling mother conceived me, in secret she bore me. She set me in a basket of rushes, with bitumen she sealed my lid. She cast me into the river, which rose not (over) me. The river bore me up and carried me to Akki, the drawer of water. Akki, the drawer of water lifted me out as he dipped his e[w]er. Akki the drawer of water, [took me] as his son (and) reared me."
From exodus:
"... The woman conceived and gave birth to a son. She saw that he was good and she hid him for three months. She could not hide him any longer, so she took for him a wicker basket and smeared it with clay and pitch, she placed the child into it and placed it among the reeds at the bank of the river." Then Pharaoh's daughter saw the basket among the reeds. Later on the Bible says (Exodus 2:10), the boy grew up and she brought him to the daughter of Pharaoh and he was a son to her. She called his name Moses, as she said, " For I drew him from the water."
*************SnakeLord said:
M*W: Thanks for the quote. I've read that Miriam was both his sister and mother which is possible, as you know, it was common in those days for Egyptian brothers and sisters to marry as Abram and Sarai, Sarai meaning 'princess,' and having the same father but different mothers, I would assume.
The Red Sea (as in the parting of) was a marsh called the Sea of Reeds, and not the Red Sea as specified in the translation of the OT. Of course, now the story of the Exodus seems to be just a fictional story.
spike_k said:
If only we could understand that there is no god, and what is referred to as "Allah" is not a god.
... time to reconsider our concept of religion by learning what Allah is as different from any preconception of god.
Do not go about looking for what you don't "know" what is!. The first thing one must do is to "identify" what god is.
God is a word with no identity, the only identities given are that it's beyond humnan uderstanding or comprehension, god has no identity other than fantasies given of a being that's omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, and supposedly benevolent. But logic would dictate that such a beign is not at all posible to exist.
I.E god's supposed benevolence: http://www.dpjs.co.uk/god.html
God contradicts free will: http://www.vexen.co.uk/religion/rm.html#FreeWill
And for you fellow atheists: http://www.americanatheist.org/smr99/T2/zindler.html
So you may uderstand why it's so hard to change people's mind. or lack thereoff!!.
Godless.
Mohammed's Allah describes Allah as the only ONE to ever exist. We "exist" as we call it because we are the drops inside the ocean, unable to experience anything but the ocean. The ocean of Allah's ever existing contemplation.
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One will never be able to comprehend the One informed through the name "ALLAH" unless he purifies himself from all his conditionings [habits, preconceptions], his judgements, [opinions of value, perspectives] based on his conditionings and his emotions [sentiments] brought about by his judgements!
As far as this is not realized, one will neither be able to attain the reality of his own "self" nor understand the One denoted through the name ALLAH that Hazrat MOHAMMED informed.
Thinking that he knows, he will say "ALLAH" at every breath but will waste his lifetime to nothing by giving that name to an imagined GOD in his mind due to his misconceptions!
Unless MOHAMMED's ALLAH is properly understood and comprehended, there is no gain in labeling and calling a god by the name "ALLAH" that one fancies, creates in his own mind associated with his inner inclinations and under the influence of his conditioning (preconceptions). Because, as it is said in the Koran:
"No doubt POLYTHEISM (shirk) is the most grievous CRUELTY!"
There is no possibility for anyone to recognize the origin of his own consciousness, to make a leap to the dimension of cosmic consciousness and to appreciate the universe through its true value until what is denoted by the name ALLAH is understood and comprehended as informed by Hazrat MOHAMMED!
Because the illusion of GOD he created and labeled as "ALLAH" in his mind will never let him get out of his cocoon and experience the truth!
The only way that Man can get out of his cocoon that is woven by his PRECONDITIONINGS is that the information (ilm) about truth (Haqiqat) reaches him, and further he reflects on these facts and lives its effect!
Yet, we all know that people usually do not REFLECT ON and neither do they like reflecting on matters requiring questioning and deep comprehension, as the ability to use the power of thought is not recognized and people are commonly educated by means of memorization.
For this very reason, people conduct themselves with reference to the behavior of others in their environment, that is "everybody".
Everyone adopts and imitates what "EVERYBODY" says and does!
Eventually they become almost a worshiper of the "Idol EVERYBODY!"
Believing that the elders always do what is right since the early ages of childhood, every individual takes up the behavior of others around by way of conditioning and begin to perform them. So in the process, they acquire others' perspectives, opinions of value as absolute facts!
All these conclusions and behavior acquired by way of habituating progressively urge the individual into a SUPPOSITION which is completely opposite to the TRUTH.
And finally the person is imprisoned in a cocoon that was woven with the thread of his SUPPOSITIONs and he begins to mourn words such as:
"Why should I spend all my life worshipping GOD! Somehow or other I will do something good in the end and get thorough safely by acquiring merit in God's sight!"
These are all fictitious CONJECTUREs (zann) which have no basis in truth and they are all caused by false information acquired by way of conditioning.
However, the Koran warns that a life built on such preconceptions (conditionings) and false CONJECTUREs will bring severely sorrowful consequences; that here are a few of these signs:
"They follow nothing but mere CONJECTURE and the whims which their souls incline to, although the guidance has come to them!" (53:23)
"They have no knowledge, they follow mere CONJECTURE -and conjecture is no substitute for truth! (53:28)
"It is this ILLUSION that has ruined you, so that now you are among the lost!" (41:23)
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As I had been saying, read that site.
www.ahmedbaki.com/english/
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One will never be able to comprehend the One informed through the name "ALLAH" unless he purifies himself from all his conditionings [habits, preconceptions], his judgements, [opinions of value, perspectives] based on his conditionings and his emotions [sentiments] brought about by his judgements!
As far as this is not realized, one will neither be able to attain the reality of his own "self" nor understand the One denoted through the name ALLAH that Hazrat MOHAMMED informed.
Thinking that he knows, he will say "ALLAH" at every breath but will waste his lifetime to nothing by giving that name to an imagined GOD in his mind due to his misconceptions!
Unless MOHAMMED's ALLAH is properly understood and comprehended, there is no gain in labeling and calling a god by the name "ALLAH" that one fancies, creates in his own mind associated with his inner inclinations and under the influence of his conditioning (preconceptions). Because, as it is said in the Koran:
"No doubt POLYTHEISM (shirk) is the most grievous CRUELTY!"
There is no possibility for anyone to recognize the origin of his own consciousness, to make a leap to the dimension of cosmic consciousness and to appreciate the universe through its true value until what is denoted by the name ALLAH is understood and comprehended as informed by Hazrat MOHAMMED!
Because the illusion of GOD he created and labeled as "ALLAH" in his mind will never let him get out of his cocoon and experience the truth!
The only way that Man can get out of his cocoon that is woven by his PRECONDITIONINGS is that the information (ilm) about truth (Haqiqat) reaches him, and further he reflects on these facts and lives its effect!
Yet, we all know that people usually do not REFLECT ON and neither do they like reflecting on matters requiring questioning and deep comprehension, as the ability to use the power of thought is not recognized and people are commonly educated by means of memorization.
For this very reason, people conduct themselves with reference to the behavior of others in their environment, that is "everybody".
Everyone adopts and imitates what "EVERYBODY" says and does!
Eventually they become almost a worshiper of the "Idol EVERYBODY!"
Believing that the elders always do what is right since the early ages of childhood, every individual takes up the behavior of others around by way of conditioning and begin to perform them. So in the process, they acquire others' perspectives, opinions of value as absolute facts!
All these conclusions and behavior acquired by way of habituating progressively urge the individual into a SUPPOSITION which is completely opposite to the TRUTH.
And finally the person is imprisoned in a cocoon that was woven with the thread of his SUPPOSITIONs and he begins to mourn words such as:
"Why should I spend all my life worshipping GOD! Somehow or other I will do something good in the end and get thorough safely by acquiring merit in God's sight!"
These are all fictitious CONJECTUREs (zann) which have no basis in truth and they are all caused by false information acquired by way of conditioning.
However, the Koran warns that a life built on such preconceptions (conditionings) and false CONJECTUREs will bring severely sorrowful consequences; that here are a few of these signs:
"They follow nothing but mere CONJECTURE and the whims which their souls incline to, although the guidance has come to them!" (53:23)
"They have no knowledge, they follow mere CONJECTURE -and conjecture is no substitute for truth! (53:28)
"It is this ILLUSION that has ruined you, so that now you are among the lost!" (41:23)
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As I had been saying, read that site.
www.ahmedbaki.com/english/
Man the Qua'ran is full of inconsitencies aswell there's no perfect book writen by god or inspired by god, it's all books writen by men, infalible as men are they make mistakes and it shows from their earliest scriptures.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/SKM/contradictions.htm
Numerical contradictions
There are many numerical contradictions in the Quran. Can God make so much error in doing simple calculations?
How many days did it take to create Heavens and Earth ?
Quran 7: 54 Your gurdian-Lord is Allah who created the heavens and earth in Six Days
Quran 10: 3 Verily your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and earth in Six Days
Quran 11:7 He it is Who created the heavens and earth in Six Days
Quran-25:29: He Who created the heavens and earth and all that is between, in Six Days
The above verses clearly state that God created the heaven and Allah created the heaven and the Earth in 6 days. But the verses below stated-
Quran 41: 9 Is it that ye deny Him who created the earth in Two Days ?
Quran 41: 10 He set on the (earth) Mountains standing firm high above it, and bestowed blessing on the earth, and measured therein all things to give them nourishment in due proportion, in FOUR DAYS…
Quran 41: 12 So He completed them (heavens) as seven firmaments in Two days and …
Now do the math: 2(for earth) + 4(for nourishment) + 2 (for heavens) = 8 days; and not 6 days
Similar mistakes you can see in the verse: Quran 4: 11 - 12, and Quran 4: 176 in inheritance law. In these verses one can see the total property after adding all distributed parties adds up more than the available property, i.e., totals become more than 1 which are: 1.125 and 1.25. How come ? A gross mathematical errors, is not it ?
Allah’s Days Equal to 1000 Years or 50,000 Years?
Quran 22: 47 A day in the sight of the Lord is like a thousand years of your reckoning. Quran-32:5: To Him, on a Day, the space whereof will be a thousands years of your rekoning
Quran 70: 4 The angels and the spirit ascend unto him in a day the measure whereof is Fifty thousands years.
So, which one is it? Is the day of Allah equal to 1,000 earth years or 50,000 earth years?
Creation of the Heaven and Earth
Which one was created first? As you will see in the verses below, Allah at one time says that Earth was created first and another time he says that the Heaven was created first.
Quran 2: 29 It is He who hath created for you all things that are on Earth; THEN He turned to the Heaven and made them into seven firmaments (Skies)….
Quran 79: 27 - 30 Are you the harder to create, or is the heaven that He built? He raised the height thereof and ordered it; and He has made dark the night thereof, and He brought forth the morning thereof. And after that, He spread (flattened) the earth
Now, does it match modern science? Do you believe that, Earth was created first, after that, God created Heaven? Modern science tells us that? Or How come SEVEN firmaments (layers)? Modern science tells us that, actually there is no such thing Sky is no “roof” over us. It is only a space with no known boundary at all. These verses simply reinforce the ancient idea of ROOF over us which is called SKY, is it not so? How funny!
Sun-set and Sun-rise
Koran teaches us that the Sun sets in a muddy spring:
Quran 18: 86 Till, when he (the traveller Zul-qarnain) reached the setting-place of the Sun, he found it going down into a muddy spring…
Quran 18: 90 Till, when he reached the rising-place of the Sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We had appointed no shelter from it.
Serious scientific errors here! Firstly, it is scientifically accepted fact that, the Sun never go down in a muddy spring. Secondly, this seems to presuppose a FLAT Earth, otherwise how can there be an extreme point in the West or in the East? A sunrise there would be basically just the same as at any other place on this earth, at land or sea. It would still look as if it is setting “far away”. It does say, that he reached THE PLACE where the Sun sets and in his second Journey the place where it rises.
A resting place for Sun!?
Quran 36: 38 And the sun runneth on unto a resting place for him. That is the measuring of the Mighty, the Wise.
Quran 36: 39 And for the moon We have appointed mansions till she return like an old shrivelled palm leaf.
Quran 36: 40 It is not for Sun to overtake the moon, nor doth the night outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit.
Allah is indeed a big scientist. Where is sun and where is moon situated? Can anybody tell me how they could collide/meet/overtake each other? Are the sun and the moon neighbors to each other? I have the answer for this error: Ancient Allah saw (bare eye observations) sun and moon traveling from east to west seemingly in the same Sky area or same path, without colliding, causing day and night etc. Allah hardly could imagine that all these phenomena are simply due to Earth’s rotation and NOT by Sun’s rotation. Sun is stationary for Earth, because earth is stuck in the sun’s Gravity, like we are stuck in earth’s gravity. Allah never says any where in the whole Quran that, EARTH ROTATES. Perhaps Allah could not feel earth’s rotation.
A resting place for sun WAS CONFIRMED BY HADITHS?
Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 54, Number 421
Sahih Bukhari Hadiths: Abzur Ghifari (ra) narrated: one day Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) asked me, “Abzar do you know after setting where does Sun go?” I replied, I do not know, only Allah’s apostle can say better. Then Prophet (SA) replied, “After setting, the sun remains prostrated under Allah’s Aro’sh and waits for Allah’s command for rising again in the East. Day will come when sun will not get permission to rise again and Qeyamot will fall upon Earth”.
Can anybody tell me what is it? It was the superstitious belief of ancient people reflected in the Quran and Hadiths by Allah. A 10-year-old boy would not tell such fairy tale story today.
Why Allah Created Stars!
Quran gives us further scientific knowledge by telling us that the stars were created by Allah as missiles to throw at the devils:
Quran 67: 5 And We have (from of old) adorned the lowest heaven (sky) with lamps, and We have made such (Lamps as) missiles to drive away Satans…
Quran 37: 6-8 We have indeed decorated the lower heaven (sky) with beauty (in) the stars, (for beauty) and for guard against all obstinate rebellious Satans. So they should not strain their ears in the direction of the Exalted Assembly but be cast away from every side.
Thus, the stars are nothing but missiles to throw at devils so that they may not eavesdrop on the heavenly council. Once again we find how Allah was high on his superstitious weirdness.
Is Sky/Heaven A ROOF or Canopy Over the Earth?
Quran 21: 32 And We have made the sky a roof withheld (from them). Yet they turn away from its portents.
Quran 31: 10 He hath created the heavens (Skies) without supports (pillars) that ye can see, and hath cast into the earth firm Mountains/Hills, so that it quake not with you; and He hath dispersed…
Quran 2: 22: Who has made the earth your couch, And the heavens (Sky) your canopy
Modern science tells us- whole thing around the earth is space and there is no boundary even if we go Billions of light years away in all directions. Questions are: When there is no sky above us then how in the world, it needs pillars for support? Do we really have a roof above us? Is there a canopy above the Earth? Is there anything called above or beneath us? Are mountains there to prevent Earth from shaking? Give me a break!
Once again Allah considered sky as roof over the Earth, which will broke/shattered during dooms day
Quran 78: 19 And the heavens (sky) Shall be broken (opened) as if there were doors opens…
Quran 82: 1 When the Sky is cleft asunder
Quran 69: 16 And the sky will be Rent asunder, for it will That day be flimsy (soft)
Quran 81: 2 When the stars fall, losing their luster.
Yousuf Ali comments in his Tafsir: beautiful blue-sky overhead (which we take for granted in sunshine) will be shattered to pieces. Modern science tells us that there is no such thing as roof/sky or any canopy over the Earth; rather all around Earth is a limitless space. Only Allah knows what will break/shatter or will get soft/flimsy or how doors will open , there is no walls, where from doors will come? In some Ayats Allah threatened kafirs by saying: “I (Allah) will throw broken pieces of sky over your head.”
Does Sun Rotate Around the Earth?
Quran 31: 29 Seest thou not that Allah merges Night into Day and He merges Day into Night; That He has subjected the sun and moon (to His law), each running its course for a term (time) appointed.
Quran 21: 33 It is He who created The Night and Day, And the Sun and Moon; each of them Swim (float) along in its own course.
Ayats mentioned above could be found over and over again and again almost in every pages of Quran. Because, Allah standing in the open Arab desert saw very well that, every morning SUN is rising from the East and gradually (appointed time or fixed time) setting to the West, and as a result, day and night follows. Allah truly mentioned this wrong knowledge (sun moving) of pre-historic people. Every time Allah mentioned Sun & Moon, He mentioned day & night, as if it is due to sun’s movement day and night follows. But surprisingly, all the hypocrite Mullahs giving false credit to Allah by saying: look Quran told about sun’s movement 1400 years ago which modern science only found out now. In real world, sun takes 225 millions of years to make just one complete circle through the solar Universe. And obviously this movement of sun has nothing to do with DAY & NIGHT of the earth. Actually, Sun is stationary in relation to the Earth, because the Earth is stuck to the giant gravitation force of the Sun, and the Earth also moves along with the Sun wherever it goes, just the way we are stuck to the Earth’s gravitation force and do not feel its movement at all.
Why then, Allah was telling the Sun’s movement again and again. I have already mentioned above, why Allah was hysteric about the Sun’s movements. Now dishonest Mullahs are claiming science here. I wonder, why Allah has to mentioned about the Sun’s 225 millions year journey (which is even unimaginable to mankind) to tell about day and night? What relation Sun’s movement has with the day and night?
Thus just a few examples.
Godless.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/SKM/contradictions.htm
Numerical contradictions
There are many numerical contradictions in the Quran. Can God make so much error in doing simple calculations?
How many days did it take to create Heavens and Earth ?
Quran 7: 54 Your gurdian-Lord is Allah who created the heavens and earth in Six Days
Quran 10: 3 Verily your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and earth in Six Days
Quran 11:7 He it is Who created the heavens and earth in Six Days
Quran-25:29: He Who created the heavens and earth and all that is between, in Six Days
The above verses clearly state that God created the heaven and Allah created the heaven and the Earth in 6 days. But the verses below stated-
Quran 41: 9 Is it that ye deny Him who created the earth in Two Days ?
Quran 41: 10 He set on the (earth) Mountains standing firm high above it, and bestowed blessing on the earth, and measured therein all things to give them nourishment in due proportion, in FOUR DAYS…
Quran 41: 12 So He completed them (heavens) as seven firmaments in Two days and …
Now do the math: 2(for earth) + 4(for nourishment) + 2 (for heavens) = 8 days; and not 6 days
Similar mistakes you can see in the verse: Quran 4: 11 - 12, and Quran 4: 176 in inheritance law. In these verses one can see the total property after adding all distributed parties adds up more than the available property, i.e., totals become more than 1 which are: 1.125 and 1.25. How come ? A gross mathematical errors, is not it ?
Allah’s Days Equal to 1000 Years or 50,000 Years?
Quran 22: 47 A day in the sight of the Lord is like a thousand years of your reckoning. Quran-32:5: To Him, on a Day, the space whereof will be a thousands years of your rekoning
Quran 70: 4 The angels and the spirit ascend unto him in a day the measure whereof is Fifty thousands years.
So, which one is it? Is the day of Allah equal to 1,000 earth years or 50,000 earth years?
Creation of the Heaven and Earth
Which one was created first? As you will see in the verses below, Allah at one time says that Earth was created first and another time he says that the Heaven was created first.
Quran 2: 29 It is He who hath created for you all things that are on Earth; THEN He turned to the Heaven and made them into seven firmaments (Skies)….
Quran 79: 27 - 30 Are you the harder to create, or is the heaven that He built? He raised the height thereof and ordered it; and He has made dark the night thereof, and He brought forth the morning thereof. And after that, He spread (flattened) the earth
Now, does it match modern science? Do you believe that, Earth was created first, after that, God created Heaven? Modern science tells us that? Or How come SEVEN firmaments (layers)? Modern science tells us that, actually there is no such thing Sky is no “roof” over us. It is only a space with no known boundary at all. These verses simply reinforce the ancient idea of ROOF over us which is called SKY, is it not so? How funny!
Sun-set and Sun-rise
Koran teaches us that the Sun sets in a muddy spring:
Quran 18: 86 Till, when he (the traveller Zul-qarnain) reached the setting-place of the Sun, he found it going down into a muddy spring…
Quran 18: 90 Till, when he reached the rising-place of the Sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We had appointed no shelter from it.
Serious scientific errors here! Firstly, it is scientifically accepted fact that, the Sun never go down in a muddy spring. Secondly, this seems to presuppose a FLAT Earth, otherwise how can there be an extreme point in the West or in the East? A sunrise there would be basically just the same as at any other place on this earth, at land or sea. It would still look as if it is setting “far away”. It does say, that he reached THE PLACE where the Sun sets and in his second Journey the place where it rises.
A resting place for Sun!?
Quran 36: 38 And the sun runneth on unto a resting place for him. That is the measuring of the Mighty, the Wise.
Quran 36: 39 And for the moon We have appointed mansions till she return like an old shrivelled palm leaf.
Quran 36: 40 It is not for Sun to overtake the moon, nor doth the night outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit.
Allah is indeed a big scientist. Where is sun and where is moon situated? Can anybody tell me how they could collide/meet/overtake each other? Are the sun and the moon neighbors to each other? I have the answer for this error: Ancient Allah saw (bare eye observations) sun and moon traveling from east to west seemingly in the same Sky area or same path, without colliding, causing day and night etc. Allah hardly could imagine that all these phenomena are simply due to Earth’s rotation and NOT by Sun’s rotation. Sun is stationary for Earth, because earth is stuck in the sun’s Gravity, like we are stuck in earth’s gravity. Allah never says any where in the whole Quran that, EARTH ROTATES. Perhaps Allah could not feel earth’s rotation.
A resting place for sun WAS CONFIRMED BY HADITHS?
Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 54, Number 421
Sahih Bukhari Hadiths: Abzur Ghifari (ra) narrated: one day Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) asked me, “Abzar do you know after setting where does Sun go?” I replied, I do not know, only Allah’s apostle can say better. Then Prophet (SA) replied, “After setting, the sun remains prostrated under Allah’s Aro’sh and waits for Allah’s command for rising again in the East. Day will come when sun will not get permission to rise again and Qeyamot will fall upon Earth”.
Can anybody tell me what is it? It was the superstitious belief of ancient people reflected in the Quran and Hadiths by Allah. A 10-year-old boy would not tell such fairy tale story today.
Why Allah Created Stars!
Quran gives us further scientific knowledge by telling us that the stars were created by Allah as missiles to throw at the devils:
Quran 67: 5 And We have (from of old) adorned the lowest heaven (sky) with lamps, and We have made such (Lamps as) missiles to drive away Satans…
Quran 37: 6-8 We have indeed decorated the lower heaven (sky) with beauty (in) the stars, (for beauty) and for guard against all obstinate rebellious Satans. So they should not strain their ears in the direction of the Exalted Assembly but be cast away from every side.
Thus, the stars are nothing but missiles to throw at devils so that they may not eavesdrop on the heavenly council. Once again we find how Allah was high on his superstitious weirdness.
Is Sky/Heaven A ROOF or Canopy Over the Earth?
Quran 21: 32 And We have made the sky a roof withheld (from them). Yet they turn away from its portents.
Quran 31: 10 He hath created the heavens (Skies) without supports (pillars) that ye can see, and hath cast into the earth firm Mountains/Hills, so that it quake not with you; and He hath dispersed…
Quran 2: 22: Who has made the earth your couch, And the heavens (Sky) your canopy
Modern science tells us- whole thing around the earth is space and there is no boundary even if we go Billions of light years away in all directions. Questions are: When there is no sky above us then how in the world, it needs pillars for support? Do we really have a roof above us? Is there a canopy above the Earth? Is there anything called above or beneath us? Are mountains there to prevent Earth from shaking? Give me a break!
Once again Allah considered sky as roof over the Earth, which will broke/shattered during dooms day
Quran 78: 19 And the heavens (sky) Shall be broken (opened) as if there were doors opens…
Quran 82: 1 When the Sky is cleft asunder
Quran 69: 16 And the sky will be Rent asunder, for it will That day be flimsy (soft)
Quran 81: 2 When the stars fall, losing their luster.
Yousuf Ali comments in his Tafsir: beautiful blue-sky overhead (which we take for granted in sunshine) will be shattered to pieces. Modern science tells us that there is no such thing as roof/sky or any canopy over the Earth; rather all around Earth is a limitless space. Only Allah knows what will break/shatter or will get soft/flimsy or how doors will open , there is no walls, where from doors will come? In some Ayats Allah threatened kafirs by saying: “I (Allah) will throw broken pieces of sky over your head.”
Does Sun Rotate Around the Earth?
Quran 31: 29 Seest thou not that Allah merges Night into Day and He merges Day into Night; That He has subjected the sun and moon (to His law), each running its course for a term (time) appointed.
Quran 21: 33 It is He who created The Night and Day, And the Sun and Moon; each of them Swim (float) along in its own course.
Ayats mentioned above could be found over and over again and again almost in every pages of Quran. Because, Allah standing in the open Arab desert saw very well that, every morning SUN is rising from the East and gradually (appointed time or fixed time) setting to the West, and as a result, day and night follows. Allah truly mentioned this wrong knowledge (sun moving) of pre-historic people. Every time Allah mentioned Sun & Moon, He mentioned day & night, as if it is due to sun’s movement day and night follows. But surprisingly, all the hypocrite Mullahs giving false credit to Allah by saying: look Quran told about sun’s movement 1400 years ago which modern science only found out now. In real world, sun takes 225 millions of years to make just one complete circle through the solar Universe. And obviously this movement of sun has nothing to do with DAY & NIGHT of the earth. Actually, Sun is stationary in relation to the Earth, because the Earth is stuck to the giant gravitation force of the Sun, and the Earth also moves along with the Sun wherever it goes, just the way we are stuck to the Earth’s gravitation force and do not feel its movement at all.
Why then, Allah was telling the Sun’s movement again and again. I have already mentioned above, why Allah was hysteric about the Sun’s movements. Now dishonest Mullahs are claiming science here. I wonder, why Allah has to mentioned about the Sun’s 225 millions year journey (which is even unimaginable to mankind) to tell about day and night? What relation Sun’s movement has with the day and night?
Thus just a few examples.
Godless.