Originally posted by Raithere
Well gee, what else do you use to determine the veracity of a proposition, a warm feeling in your tummy?
Well Duh!!!
Supernatural indicates more than natural, not of the laws of nature, unless you have experienced it, how can you know what to expect?
It may be direct perception, applicable only to the person involved, and therefore evidence would not be needed.
While I would not go so far as to say that existence and intervention of a supernatural entity is absolutely impossible I find it highly improbable and the assertion to be incredibly presumptuous"
Please tell me, as you obviously have some idea, what is a supernatural entity?
And the fact that you find it highly improbable and incredibly presumptuous………….wow!!
No, I mean we, the people holding this discussion. We're speaking about biology. If you wish to use some other definition you need to indicate it and we can break off into another tangent.
No, we’re talking about life, what is life, how does it come about, what is its purpose etc…
I’m afraid biology cannot enter into such an arena unless it has some real answers that relate to our experience of life.
Well, I don't know about you but extraterrestrial visitation hardly seems to be a commonplace occurrence from my POV.
Exactly, from your POV!
But it is a common place occurrance, there are millions of eye witness testimonies.
But then, maybe you're one of those people who gets "taken" every couple of years. In which case it may indeed be a mundane experience for you.
Yeah maybe!
What is the BG definition of life?
That is quite a silly question, as you, me and every living thing is the definition of life, a more intelligent question would be; what is the origin of life? By knowing the origin you know everything.
Chapter 4, Verse 35.
And when you have thus learned the truth, you will know that
all living beings are but part of Me--and that they are in Me, and are Mine.
Chapter 2, Verse 13.
As the embodied soul continuously passes, in this body, from boyhood to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at death. A self-realized soul is not bewildered by such a change.
Chapter 3, Verse 10.
In the beginning of creation, the Lord of all creatures sent forth generations of men and demigods, along with sacrifices for Visnu, and blessed them by saying…..
Chapter 7, Verse 4.
Earth, water, fire, air, ether, mind, intelligence and false ego--all together these eight comprise My separated material energies.
Chapter 7, Verse 6.
Of all that is material and all that is spiritual in this world, know for certain that I am both its origin and dissolution.
Chapter 7, Verse 10.
O son of Prtha, know that I am the original seed of all existences, the intelligence of the intelligent, and the prowess of all powerful men.
Chapter 9, Verse 5.
.............I am the maintainer of all living entities, and although I am everywhere, still My Self is the very source of creation.
Chapter 9, Verse 6.
As the mighty wind, blowing everywhere, always rests in ethereal space, know that in the same manner all beings rest in Me.
Chapter 9, Verse 8.
The whole cosmic order is under Me. By My will it is manifested again and again, and by My will it is annihilated at the end.
Yea, and the idea that aliens spent their time talking to primitive tribesmen so much more reasonable. No wonder we have such trouble agreeing upon things.
I see what you mean, primitive tribesmen, puh! they are of little importance, what do they know eh?
The bastards must be lying.
Nor do I.... only the assertion that they are flying over here for sneaky visits to impart practically useless knowledge to select groups of humans. Because the orbit of Sirius-B is so much more important in their daily lives than say the germ theory of disease.
Sneaky visits?
Useless knowledge?
The germ theory of disease?
You make me laugh Rait, your okay mate!
Sounds like a very interesting story.
Not really, very ordinary.
…..but there are relatively few things that I cannot comprehend and thus far I have been able to comprehend everything I have set myself to understanding.
And modest with it too!
I find it so strange that people find critical analysis to be a bad thing.
There is nothing wrong with critical analasys, as we speak I am critically analysing the theory of evolution.
It is just that some things cannot be empirically proven, it is just not possible, life being one of those things. As human beings we have more ways of accessing knowledge than with our eyes. We have talked about love, which is very real, but cannot be proven to anyone other than the lover and beloved.
Love
Jan Ardena.