God and atheists

You asked the original question.
And then you gave a perfectly valid reason for not asking it. (Post 29)
And THEN repeated the question in a later post.
 
"God" is a force that puts life on planets throughout the universe, no belief required.

Oops. Someone else attempting to redefine "god".
If god is a force how do we measure it?
What units are used? Angels (standard SI abbreviation An)?
What's that in mks?

It is just ordinary matter and energy distributing itself through out the universe, ordinary units of mass and energy apply.
 
It is just ordinary matter and energy distributing itself through out the universe, ordinary units of mass and energy apply.
In other words you are redefining "god".

Please show that there is a "force" that puts life on planets throughout the universe. Or even just on Earth to keep it simple.
 
In other words you are redefining "god".

Please show that there is a "force" . Or even just on Earth to keep it simple.

What do you consider what we have on the earth? We have life which is unique. It is a manifestation of Intelligence , matter without intelligent force will be just a rock which will be weathered by the air
 
What do you consider what we have on the earth? We have life which is unique.
Unique?
Possibly. Depending on what exactly you mean by unique.

It is a manifestation of Intelligence , matter without intelligent force will be just a rock which will be weathered by the air
Supposition.

And doesn't address the question anyway, other than to use a circular argument.
 
There are some people on Sciforums who don't believe in atheists. I guess they are a-atheists.
I don't believe in atheist so I guess I am one of those A- Team players you talk of Sidey. You see I learned something that puts humility in Me . Want to know ? I will tell you anyway. Human Intelligence is " shuuush--- Don't want to let the cat out---- not the center of the universe
 
"God" is a force that puts life on planets throughout the universe, no belief required.



Can you measure your love for your children ? What units do you use , :mad:

I think you can , or more that I can measure your love of your child by your interaction with your child , so you all better stop telling your children they are bad . They are a reflection of the things you keep hidden. And That ain't no bullshit . Being a carpenter and builder has given this insight to Me . The kids like Me . I fight for there right to be human . They are little yous . Mini Me's
 
I don't believe in atheist so I guess I am one of those A- Team players you talk of Sidey. You see I learned something that puts humility in Me . Want to know ? I will tell you anyway. Human Intelligence is " shuuush--- Don't want to let the cat out---- not the center of the universe
Not yet maybe.

can you come up with a logical argument for this answer?

I believe I did in another thread. Humans can never be perfect thanks to evolution. Variation in our gene pool is our strength, and it means that a certain percentage of people will not be ideally suited to the present environment, always. Add to that the pace of our technological advancement due to intelligence, and it creates a constantly changing environment.
 
I believe I did in another thread. Humans can never be perfect thanks to evolution. Variation in our gene pool is our strength, and it means that a certain percentage of people will not be ideally suited to the present environment, always. Add to that the pace of our technological advancement due to intelligence, and it creates a constantly changing environment.

it doesn't seem to me like anyone is ideally suited to the present environment which makes me question your premise. wouldn't it be better if instead of no one being ideally suited, everyone was ideally suited? if everyone was ideally suited to a perfect environment, then wouldn't that make us perfect humans?
 
it doesn't seem to me like anyone is ideally suited to the present environment which makes me question your premise. wouldn't it be better if instead of no one being ideally suited, everyone was ideally suited? if everyone was ideally suited to a perfect environment, then wouldn't that make us perfect humans?
Everything changes... Change is the only constant.

Under your scenario, when the environment changes and we are no longer ideally suited, we all die.
 
it doesn't seem to me like anyone is ideally suited to the present environment which makes me question your premise. wouldn't it be better if instead of no one being ideally suited, everyone was ideally suited? if everyone was ideally suited to a perfect environment, then wouldn't that make us perfect humans?

I'm sure there are some people who seem to have a charmed life, who fit their time and place more or less perfectly.

If everyone was ideally suited, then when things change, and change is inevitable, we would all die. I do think that in a relatively stable environment, most animals would be well adapted, but these are not the conditions in which humans find themselves, probably and paradoxically due to our success.
 
I'm sure there are some people who seem to have a charmed life, who fit their time and place more or less perfectly.

If everyone was ideally suited, then when things change, and change is inevitable, we would all die. I do think that in a relatively stable environment, most animals would be well adapted, but these are not the conditions in which humans find themselves, probably and paradoxically due to our success.

is it success then?
 
Everything changes... Change is the only constant.

Under your scenario, when the environment changes and we are no longer ideally suited, we all die.

what kind of change?

also this idea of perfection, or being ideally suited, doesn't have to imply that everyone is exactly the same.
 
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