What the hell?
Lucifer's Angel said:
it is a slap in the face for people who cannot have children, because the goverment will ahve to leave a certain amount of children just in case a homosexual couple wants to adopt, because eventually they will have to be treated like everyone else!
In the United States, as String noted, the long wait is the children's. We have, on average, over 100,000 kids a year in need of homes. It's one of the infuriating things about both the anti-abortion and homophobic arguments: These self-righteous rabble-rousers don't actually give a damn about the children.
some gay people just want a child has a fashion statement
My former heterosexual partner, the mother of my daughter, had a child as a status statement. She didn't want a family. We had an early argument when my daughter was two months old. She wanted to put our child in daycare so that I could get a job and pay the rent. Of course, she was worth more in the marketplace, but heaven forbid she spend the money on our family endeavor. The effect of her proposal was that I should pay for childcare and rent so that she could spend her off-hours at the bar.
Booze, cocaine, flirting with the barflies. I sometimes tell a story called "The Eighteen Hour Diaper Run". She actually stopped me from going to the store to buy diapers. Said she would do it, instead. Took off with the child seat in her car, and did not return home for eighteen hours. Apparently, she ran into a friend at the bar while she was out.
Her
father once called my mother to ask what the hell I was doing with his daughter's paychecks. Apparently, she told him that she turned her check over to me.
There was one night when a friend and I were watching
nine children between us. Three of them were ours. His wife was at home, working on the electrical system for the Boeing 777; my partner and the mother who lived across the street "went to the store" together for several hours, coming home drunk. After about an hour, the father across the street disappeared, as well. My friend had brought his two sons to play with the boys across the street, and Emma Grace was playing with the girls. Suddenly, we found ourselves in charge of nine children, only three of which were ours.
When, toward the end of her maternity leave, my partner told me she was feeling better and was ready to get things started, I was ecstatic. I hadn't managed to adjust fully to being a homemaker (I never have). Unfortunately, what she was ready to get started was not our family adventure, but rather her new life as a respected mother among the barflies.
As our relationship dissolved to the point that my partner asked her father (our landlord) to kick me out of the house—under the pretense that it was my fault she wasn't paying him rent—she explained to me her parental priorities in terms of why she was never home: "The most important part of having a happy child is a happy mother."
For comparison, we might consider Dan Savage—one of America's most famous gay men—who
once skipped out on a work-related party at a local bar in order to make an emergency delivery of ketchup. Terry was making macaroni and cheese for their kid and a couple of his friends, and there was no ketchup.
Fashion statement. The natural circle of things. My partner takes the car seat and leaves me without diapers for most of a day in order to be at the bar. The gay man skips the bar in order to make a rush delivery of ketchup and spend time with his kid.
Yeah. My partner is just one heterosexual (fake bi) woman. Dan Savage is just one gay man with a kid. Tell me, though, which one had a kid as a goddamn fashion statement?
what percentage of gay people who do adopt have homosexual children when they're older?
What percentage of adopted children, period, grow up to be gay?
I, for one, am adopted. My parents are
strictly heterosexual. I'm bisexual at least, and the way things are going I might actually bother to emerge from the closet for the last bastion left in ignorance, my parents and brother. Okay, my parents. My brother "doesn't know", but I think that's a willful choice. He'll deal with it when I put it in front of him. (There's actually a funny story to that, but we can save that for a more relevant occasion.)
pease give me some figures of how many dont want children?
In the United States, we are approaching a crisis point with willful paternal abandonment. I'm still searching for the numbers—they're mostly hidden behind subscription fees, it seems, but I'm probably just looking in the wrong place—but its in the hundreds of thousands.
One abstract reads, in part,
Absent fathers are pervasive in American culture. Father absence is pathological and severely affects the abandoned son's capacity for self-esteem and intimacy ....
.... The prevalence of absent fathers across class and ethnic categories suggests that this social problem afflicts many families with profound emotional, developmental, educational, and legal consequences for the abandoned sons.
(
Balcom)
As to the mothers? I've recounted two who would weep for the loss of their children, but hold their own recreation as a higher priority than their children. Compared to mothers and fathers alike in the United States in general, they're hardly unique.
i found this and its how i feal:
We were created male and female not by some cosmic accident but by the design of God.
Believe that faery tale all you want, but please do the world a favor and
don't teach it to your kids.
gay people should not be allowed to adopt children that is what i think, and eventually they will be abel to, because they will shout, scream, stomp they feet like spoilt little children to get they're own way, what happens when they want to stomp and scream they're way into getting the age of concent lowered?? will that be ok??
Damn. There's another faery tale. In the United States, we have a term for the people who use that argument:
bigot.
Oh, hey. I see from Asguard's input, they have that word elsewhere in the English-speaking world, too.
and that is NOT what i said, you just want to mix everything up to make your points right and mine wrong, this is a disscusion and we are two differant people who are bound to have differant views on differant things!
Yeah, actually, it
is what you said. If not, you're more than welcome to explain what the hell your point was in raising the issue of age of consent.
And, by the way, the age of consent, in the United States:
Hawaii: 14
Idaho: 14
Colorado: 15
Connecticut: 15
Mississippi: 16 (if the female is over age 12, this only applies to virgins)
The majority of states in the US set their age of consent at age 16 or under.
i know you need a licence to watch TV, drive a car, but you dont need one to raise a child
The punch line here is obvious, you know.
but what if these youngs kids try out they're fealings and are left hurt for a long time?
How the hell is that any different than heterosexuality?
ok your talking me around, perhaps they should be able to adopt but what if the child doesnt like the couple? what if the couple dont like the child?
How the hell is that any different than heterosexuality?
What, do you have a shortage of children in your country? If so, congratulations.
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Notes:
Balcom, Dennis A. "Absent fathers: effects on abandoned sons (Abstract)". Questia.com. http://www.questia.com/googleSchola...DDQHWsHKTR4fMqBy8!-725903841?docId=5001348916