Calling the universe God is, roughly, pantheism, not Deism.
Get your isms right
It isn't pantheism, it's the multi peson pantheism.
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Full born atheism is anti-intellectual
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It isn't pantheism, it's the multi peson pantheism.
It's Naturalistic Pantheism, as described by Spinoza. "Multi-person Pantheistic Solipsism," as far as I'm aware, is a concept literally derived from a Science Fiction novel.It isn't pantheism, it's the multi peson pantheism.
Then your brain would be affected. Your brain is material. Hence: material world interaction.if i am the receipient of a telepathic communication, or if i experience some physical sensation, or if i am given a message by a variety of means that are available in this world, or if i happen to see inanimate objects moving around on my coffee table seemingly all by themselves one afternoon...do you see?
Also, if you can send and receive telepathic communications, I'd love a demo. You could make a lot of money.
What on earth does this mean? The universe not being existent to the role of a God? Huh? What is that?
Again, incomplete sentence.
You do not sound wise. You sound like you need remedial English.
Apparently a lot more wise than you guys.....
But yes, in a rough condition.
The fact is,
Incomplete sentences do not matter
You can take what I say for what it is or you can't take it at all, my loss as well as yours. But at least try to make the best of what I say, please?
Anyway:
What on earth does this mean? The universe not being existent to the role of a God? Huh? What is that?
It's mostly telepathic in nature, and can cause one to use spiritual acts of homocide.
God is the only role in this; the universe and rebirth.
It isn't apparently logical.
But it is a position that holds it's weight (so to speak).
And not only that but holds up with theory.
I don't think I'm anslem, but I think that God if doubted is subject to immense doubt there in.
It's Naturalistic Pantheism, as described by Spinoza. "Multi-person Pantheistic Solipsism," as far as I'm aware, is a concept literally derived from a Science Fiction novel.
This Sci-fi-novel doesn't matter.
The truth is all that matters.
You can either believe in MPSP or not, but it is the religion of the future. The bible holds a lot of weight to it, even.
How do you know what "that" is?
well, there have been times when my body has been manipulated or that i've experienced sensations from an unseen force. like that...
:roflmao:
The Appocolipse?
:roflmao:
Laugh all you will. I have been subject to ridicule for my beliefes before.
But I know what I am refering to.
And I only wished to get the point across.
I feel I have "acheived my goal."
Again you describe a material interaction.well, there have been times when my body has been manipulated or that i've experienced sensations from an unseen force. like that...
Moreover, your brain is pretty good at faking sensations. Everybody's had a few. The question isn't whether you've had odd sensations, it's whether you feel the need to ascribe them to supernatural phenomena. Let's face it, dropping acid will get you far weirder sensations than the ones you've likely had.
Laugh all you will. I have been subject to ridicule for my beliefes before.
But I know what I am refering to.
And I only wished to get the point across.
I feel I have "acheived my goal."
I was laughing at your spelling, but I do think that the apocalypse is an absurd notion.
I'm glad you know what you're referring to, but you have utterly failed at getting any points across. I still have no idea what you were trying to say.
Again you describe a material interaction.
Moreover, your brain is pretty good at faking sensations. Everybody's had a few. The question isn't whether you've had odd sensations, it's whether you feel the need to ascribe them to supernatural phenomena. Let's face it, dropping acid will get you far weirder sensations than the ones you've likely had.
There are spiritual interactions. I have had them myself.
But who would share them?
Who would claim God did it?
When it isn't the god of fairy tales, or any such gibberish.
Yes, and your credibility is beyond reproach. Ye of the gibberish sentence fragments.There are spiritual interactions. I have had them myself.
But who would share them?
Who would claim God did it?
When it isn't the god of fairy tales, or any such gibberish.
well, there have been times when my body has been manipulated or that i've experienced sensations from an unseen force. like that...
How (and when) do those types of experiences normally unfold?
I do.
Do you understand why he's so resistant to your communications?
Correct, and do you know why he can't understand them?
Anyone who claims that belief in a deity is the one thing that separates us from the animals, and uses language to do it, is overlooking some aspects of the situation.SAM said:See? Anyone who denies the one aspect that separates us from animals has got to be demonstrably stupid
But that is nothing compared with the notion that a "full born" atheist can believe in nothing, think nothing. The only explanation I can come up with for that howler is the assumption that, to a theist, without a deity there is no abstract, spiritual, or "larger realm" aspect of the world at all. Taoists are secret Deists, then ?
Again we see theism taking the credit for all the good in the world. A sort of spiritual plagiarism, that - a form of greed, maybe ?