Flag burning
- Thread starter Norsefire
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Hate crime
If someone posted an image of a banner or pennant, then later, posted another post of the same thing, but modified, so it looks like it's on fire, when does doing something like that become "a serious hate crime", or "unpatriotic"?Nors efire said:
Or does it depend on what the original looks like (say it's got red and white stripes, and a deep-blue patch in one corner, with white spots on it? What if it isn't the usual rectangular shape? Is posting an image of a flag with a circular or a pentagonal shape a crime? Is using a triangular shape a greater or a lesser offence, respect-wise?
No surprises there, then?
It's patriotic to be anti-government sometimes.
I guess.
But what if an immigrant just comes into your contry, then stats bitching and spewing shit at you
I share your feelings on this issue. When I see someone burning an American flag, it seriously pisses me off. If I saw someone doing that in person, I'd probably try to stop them, perhaps gather a brigade of supersoakers to put out the fire, I could even see myself getting into a fight over the issue.
But, much as I hate flag burning, I do consider it to be a form of free speech and so wouldn't outlaw it.
superstring01
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Agreed.
The quickest way to make people start fishing in your pond is to hang a "no fishing" sign on the lot.
~String
Anything can be legislated to be a "crime against the state".
You don't really want a totalitarian regime, much as you imagine you do. Trust me.
You'd execute somebody for spitting on somebody else?
It pisses you off? But not enough to be so concerned about it, that you can find time to gather a posse of dudes with water pistols?madanthny said:
What would be wrong with using the old trouser-snake weapon, to douse the terrifying blaze?
Or would that mean some sort of penance, for having to piss on it to rescue its dignity, from the fanatics?
Let's not forget that the proper way to retire an old flag is to burn it. How do you craft a constitutional amendment to ban burning a flag in anger, while preserving VFW flag retirement ceremonies? It is a can of worms best left unopened.
Burning a flag is more than simply burning a piece of cloth; a flag represents an entire nation: the people within, its government, its culture, its language, its religion, etc. When you burn a flag, you're supporting the destruction of everything that flag stands for. Whilst burning a flag is more than simply burning a cloth, I wouldn't support the death penalty for such an action, mainly because it isn't directly harmful to anybody. Perhaps monetary penalization of some sort would suffice. However, in an ultra-patriotic country like Turkey, for example, the police force wouldn't waste its time being involved. The very citizens would beat the flag-burner(s) to a pulp/death.
Kadark the Imperial
Kadark the Imperial
No. You're just saying "I don't like what the government is doing", or possibly "I don't feel like my views are represented by this nation any more".
Some flag burners may want the destruction of the nation, but you can't conclude that all want that.
And Turkey wants to be part of the EU?
Sounds barbaric.