Still begs the question (I hope you are taking this seriously)bear in mind that any finite length of time is infinitely shorter than eternity.
I.e. "Time-limited" would be anything from 0 to... well... a very long time indeed.
Still begs the question (I hope you are taking this seriously)bear in mind that any finite length of time is infinitely shorter than eternity.
I.e. "Time-limited" would be anything from 0 to... well... a very long time indeed.
It was from a believer who has at least half a brain an tryin to put his monster God in a beter light.!!!First I have heard of a time-limited fire and brimstone hell.
It might be worth it you know. What comes after ?
Which may then go some way to helping me understand the relevance of your one-word answer.
Thanks.
Hadn't been aware of NDEs and hell.
Learn something new etc.
but you don't think your belief or not in the truth of the interpretations in what you are linking to is relevant?
I would think you'd find a link on Google if you looked, and if what I was taught is commonly enough understood.
Otherwise I guess it'll just be me saying so, based on what I was told when younger.
Christians are delusional. Heaven and Hell is a complete fantasy, as well as God.
There is no evidence that any God exists or that there is life after death. God simply doesn't exist, it's simple as that.
Even if some God exists and that is highly unlikely, there is no shred of proof that he cares about human life.
The vast amount of evidence that I have seen points that there is no life after death. Death is the end of human existence, it's simple as that.
The lovin father would only be punishing the wicked . The virtuous need not worryIt was from a believer who has at least half a brain an tryin to put his monster God in a beter light.!!!
Heaven comes after a few thousand years of burnin hell (his beliefs)... does that seem worth it to you... or the plan of a lovin father.???
The lovin father would only be punishing the wicked . The virtuous need not worry
Some people would surely trade a time-limited punishment for present advancement. What is more ,they could cash in a few favours at the end of their punishment if their "sins" were to also the benefit of third parties.
As an example ,Sculptor has informed us that Saddam Hussein did a lot of good to "his people" so he would presumably be in line for a large dividend at the end of his time in the fire.
Hitler was kind to animals, I have heard....
Your definition mentioned no counterpart, merely two different concepts, or aspects, of something.Dualism s what it is.
You have a concept of Hell. Use dualism
to work out it's counterpart.
The question asked was whether someone has come back from hell.Not in the slightest.
Why do you think it does?
To provide but one link as an example of what you might find if you look, just on the off-chance that you were actually being sarcastic (heaven forbid you should resort to sarcasm!):Thanks for that. It's really helpful.
You dare suggest I wouldn't be?!Still begs the question (I hope you are taking this seriously)
Hi JanYou do?
We may?
That is an opinion. There is also no evidence that God doesn't exist.God simply doesn't exist, it's simple as that.
There is no evidence that any God exists
Even if some God exists and that is highly unlikely, there is no shred of proof that he cares about human life.
The vast amount of evidence that I have seen points that there is no life after death. Death is the end of human existence, it's simple as that.
However I am interested to know where the concept of hell comes from.
Also who can look forward to hell?
Only believers who are guilty of sin?
If you don't believe and presumable don't have guilt in your heart (mind) can you be guilty of any sin and therefore escape judgement?
A sin is any behaviour I consider to be bad and does not fit my notion of good behaviour.
I call your observation wisdom.The only judgement is what one places upon their self.
Your definition mentioned no counterpart, merely two different concepts, or aspects, of something.
I'm still struggling to comprehend what you mean.
Please enlighten?
The question asked was whether someone has come back from hell.
You gave a link to lists of youtube videos reporting to be about that, but if you don't actually believe what is in those videos, all you're saying is that some people have claimed that they have, not that you actually believe they have, not that you actually think it possible.
I'm not going to prejudge that, thanks.
But I am curious why you doubt it: is it because you doubt NDEs genuinely being as interpreted, or just that the light they see is the fires of hell because you think it is the light of heaven or some such?
I would think you'd find a link on Google if you looked, and if what I was taught is commonly enough understood.
Otherwise I guess it'll just be me saying so, based on what I was told when younger.
As to whether I believe it, I certainly think it plausible that the image we have of hell as a fiery pit might have stemmed from the original /Greek word used that linked it to such things.
Clever use of a name to conjure up the images desired by the writer, etc.
It's plausible.
Hi Jan
Thank you for participating in my thread.
As usual you have more questions than answers...why is that?
No don't answer.
Alex
A sin is any behaviour I consider to be bad and does not fit my notion of good behaviour.
And I guess the up shot of this thread is the proposition of a fiery hell is like many other things in the world of religion a damn fact and you had better believe it or else.
Fortunately the civilized world has moved from the notion of punishment to that of rehabilitation.
I propose a new hell where folk can receive counseling and help with anger management.