Bells, thanks for the support. I'm probably going to reply to your post about the Stolen Generation in a day or so. I still have to research the benefits Abbos get that whites don't.
Why don't you get yourself an aboriginal girlfriend, and go and live in one of the paradise aboriginal communities that all get these "special privileges" you're so upset about?
I find it strange that James R doesn't think that domestic violence against men is a 'big deal'. It makes me wonder how much contact he has had with women.
I've been wondering for some time how much contact
you have had with women. There must be some reason for your misogyny. I'm guessing you've been rejected too much for your liking. It fits with your need to be the victim, though.
I've posted scientific articles which state that surveys demonstrate physical abuse is perpetrated equally by both genders in domestic situations. You may be able to quote studies to the contrary.
You've parroted off some studies hosted by "men's rights" groups, in the same way that you parrot off studies hosted on white supremacist websites. Part of growing as a person is being able to look at both sides of an argument dispassionately, rather than ignoring any evidence that goes against your preconceptions and prejudices.
In otherwords, we can't draw a clear conclusion from the data at the present point in time. The wikipedia article you posted stated that the jury is still out on the prevalence of domestic abuse against males and females. So why do you (and the Australian govt.) ASSUME that only domestic violence against women is a big deal?
I don't.
Today, a lot of those handicaps have been removed. Women can vote, work in any job that they wish, play sports, yada yada. They have their independence. But they still retain some advantages from ye olde code of chivalry, and some are more than willing to exploit it to 'take revenge' against men (or 'smash the patriachy', as the real rabid feminists would call it), or simply because they are vindictive.
You and ABS don't seem to be worried by any ancient code of chivalry. You're arguing, after all, that you ought to be able to hit a woman in the face, are you not?
In custody issues, domestic abuse issues, alimony issues and sexual harassment issues, the system is inherently biased against men. The majority of prisoners are male, the majority of school dropouts are male, the majority of victims of violence are male.
And the majority of perpetrators of violence are male. Your attempt to dishonestly conflate separate issues is transparent.
Assault and rape against males is either treated with indifference, or even laughter.
And yet, strangely, every night on the news I see stories of arrests and prosecutions for assaults committed on men.
Men are often stereotyped to be poor fathers, unable to emotionally satisify their spouse, aggressive animals, or potential rapists just waiting to happen. Any man who dares complains about these injustices is often told to 'act like a real man, stop whining, and soak it up.' It's almost like the males of this generation (and many future generatons) have to pay for the sins of males in the past.
You seem to want a return to the past, where white males had unquestioned authority and dominance in society. Why would that be, I wonder. Could it be because you consider yourself a victim and you feel you deserve more power and prestige? Is that why you're so keen to join the racists and sexists?
I'm just curious James, but how would you react to an ad campaign with the slogan "Violence against whites: Australia says no!"
I'd want to know why whites are being singled out.
James do you realise that in some westen counties a man cant actually make a criminal or civil case of rape? Acording to the law its impossable for a woman to comit rape or sexual assult, if a woman holds a knife to a mans throat and forces him to have sex with her that is common asult.
Which western countries?
Personally, I think the campaigns should not be gender based to the extent it has been. It should simply be "domestic violence: Australia says no!".
Many people don't understand what domestic violence is. An ad campaign needs to be as specific as possible, within its 30 second timeslot, or the message risks getting lost.
Men in Australia, at least, need to understand that if they are the victims of domestic violence, they need to report it to the police and the police should not laugh at them or treat them as though they have done something wrong. I'll put it this way, if a woman walks into a police station with 3 broken teeth and bruised and tells them she has been physically abused by her husband, and the police laughed at her, there would be a public uproar and rightly so. But that does happen to a lot of men. The result is they feel helpless and completely unsupported by those who are meant to be there to help them.
It sounds like what is needed here is not an ad campaign or news laws, but better police training.
I found the campain timing to be highly contrevertial. You dont think the whole thing couldnt have just been the howard goverment trying to get the feminist vote?
No, I don't think the campaign was a political ploy. And I don't think it would have swung any votes at all.
why is it when someone says they are antifeminisum that is a bad thing?
Because almost invariably, those who say that are either misogynists, or else have no real understanding of what feminism is.
Being pro-women, by the way, need not mean being anti-men. It isn't a question of arguing about which sex is "better".
I compleatly surport an END to male shovinisium but i ALSO surport the end of feminisum. People should be pushing for EQUAL rights not one or the other, it shouldnt be wrong to push for needed money for either men or women.
Most feminists support equal rights.
bell it goes further than just the law. For instance equality on health spending would be nice too. Equality to walk into a bar would also be nice rather than being told "sorry there are to many men, but your partner can go in" Equality in PRICING at bars (you know when i told a girl it was against the sexual discrimination act for a woman to be given free entry and free or discounted drinks her responce to me was it shouldnt be women have to be beautiful to get into a bar so they should pay me to go in). Hell even the equality to wear whatever you want (a dress or skirt or long hair) as women can do now.
Bars are businesses. Obviously, some have decided that they get too many men and not enough women if they accept everybody in. They decide what mix of men and women they want. And the customers agree to that. If they did not, they would not frequent those bars any more and the bars would go out of business.
It's just sour grapes to complain about being rejected by a bar. If they reject you, and you think you're better than that, do you beg and scrape to them to let you in, or do you just never go to that bar again and tell all your friends not to go there either? I know what I do. If you disagree with the way they run their establishment, don't go there. Enough people make the same decision and they go out of business. Simple.
Wow, way to stereotype. During my stay in university, I've observed that many women are quite happy to attend bars along with men. Including bars that were notorious for people getting drunk and puking all over the floor. That includes males and females. I've also seen males barred from entering social events (which they paid to attend) simply because they weren't being escorted by a band of females.
If they paid for a service which was then denied, they are legally entitled to a full refund. That is very different from being rejected by the door chick at that trendy bar you're desperate to get into.
