Empirical Evidence of God

[StrangerInAStrangeLand]

our existence is evidence enough

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Our existence is not evidence of a god.
You cannot handle not knowing & not understanding so you make absurd claims such as that.

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[akoreamerican]

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You cannot handle not knowing & not understanding so you make absurd claims such as that.

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You are talking about yourself and your belief that God doesn't exist right?

 

[StrangerInAStrangeLand]

You are talking about yourself and your belief that God doesn't exist right?

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Aside from the childish stupidity of that, I did not say I believe god does not exist.

Our existence is not evidence of a god.

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[akoreamerican]

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I did not say I believe god does not exist.
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That's fine

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Our existence is not evidence of a god.

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So you don't believe that effects are caused by a... cause?

 

[StrangerInAStrangeLand]

That's fine

So you don't believe that effects are caused by a... cause?

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I answered that & you did not respond.

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[akoreamerican]

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I answered that & you did not respond.

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You mean your admission that God exists? Or are you talking about something else? I seem to have missed it. Kindly point it out to me

 

[StrangerInAStrangeLand]

You mean your admission that God exists?

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Are you a child, a fool or a troll?

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[akoreamerican]

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Are you a child, a fool or a troll?

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None of the above? I thought personal insults were frowned upon here

 

[StrangerInAStrangeLand]

None of the above? I thought personal insults were frowned upon here

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You insult yourself.

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[sideshowbob]

our existence is evidence enough

Ha! Not that garbage again.

 

[akoreamerican]

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You insult yourself.

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I thought you didn't like childish games

 

[sideshowbob]

Are you saying only the things you believe exists, is all that exists?

Jan.

You have it backwards. If there's reason to think it exists - i.e. hard evidence.

 

[akoreamerican]

Ha! Not that garbage again.

Calling it garbage won't make it go away.

 

[sideshowbob]

Calling it garbage won't make it go away.

I'm not expecting it to go away. I'm just putting it in its appropriate receptacle.

 

[Dywyddyr]

our existence is evidence enough

A nice example of irrational "thinking"...

 

[akoreamerican]

Well... this is getting no where and I have things to do. Cya ladies and gents

 

[Write4U]

I don’t think there’s anything obvious about the ultimate nature or preconditions of our universe or gods. For all we know our universe could be a god’s left testicle or ovary.

Then you are arguing against what IS known about the universe. It is 13.7 billion years old and started as a rapid inflation. Thus the universe has not existed forever and was preceded by a causal condition which is the one distinctive property given to God, the sentient creator.

I don’t see the point in making a distinction between that which may become reality and reality itself. Reality is that which exists, regardless of its conditional form.

Your are missing the point. Potential is "That which MAY become reality". A latent ability, not yet reality.

IOW , while not all potential becomes reality, all reality was/is/will be preceded by potential......difference.

The word and it's implications is really underrated. Think about it.

 

[Jan Ardena]

You have it backwards. If there's reason to think it exists - i.e. hard evidence.

Are you saying things only exist if you have hard evidence of there existence, and failing that they don't exist?

jan.

 

[sideshowbob]

Are you saying things only exist if you have hard evidence of there existence, and failing that they don't exist?

Failing hard evidence, there's no reason to think they exist. It's certainly possible for something to exist before hard evidence is found but until hard evidence is found, there's no excuse for believing.

 

[spidergoat]

To my knowledge no one has satisfactorily answered what created us. The individual partials that make up our bodies. If you can't answer that don't you dare say there is no God

Lack of support for a naturalistic theory doesn't support a supernatural one.

Also, atheists seldom say there is no God, just that there is no good reason to believe there is one.