Egyptian girl strips to protest; western media censors her photos

But I vaguely remember there was some sci-fi series with a veiled Muslim woman, didn't watch it, just heard about it, and I don't recall the name

Just remembered, its an Afghan woman in the X-Men comics series

For some reason, she is not wearing the Afghan chaddor

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but she is veiled

http://marvel.com/universe/Dust

The fact that somebody with a TV series can't get it on the air doesn't prove much of anything about anyone, except that the relevant TV execs didn't think they'd make money on it. Absent further data, the reasoning for that is fairly inscrutible.

That would certainly explain why there is an independent lens documentary on it and why the person behind the comic and the person who made the movie on the comic both find themselves talking about American resistance to the topic
 
That would certainly explain why there is an independent lens documentary on it

One wonders what one is supposed to be able to infer from the mere existence of an Independent Lens documentary. Perhaps you could tell us about some of the other Independent Lens documentaries that you've seen, and relate the motivations for their production, so that we can see how this inference is supposed to work? Is it your contention that any subject of an Independent Lens documentary is, by default, a politically controversial phenomenon?

and why the person behind the comic and the person who made the movie on the comic both find themselves talking about American resistance to the topic

The best explanation for both of those things is exactly that The 99, and the narrative about American TV execs resisting it for ideological reasons, makes great fodder for the Independent Lens audience, and plays into the PR narrative that its producers have ridden to success so far.

It's worth keeping in mind that the entire motivation for turning The 99 into an animated series and pitching it to US television, is exactly that it does not sell enough to turn a profit in any of the Arabic-language markets it already appears in, despite warm reception from the media there and open backing of local politicians. Remove that agenda from the decision-making - leave it up to a bunch of executives who only care about profit - and the lack of airtime doesn't seem to demand anything beyond simple profit motive in the way of explanation. Of course, the producers of such could never simply admit that - and certainly, not in the documentary about them which is their big chance to pitch their product to a wider audience - so, unsurprisingly, we get a self-serving narrative about how their great, profitable product is being censored due to bigotry.

But, answer me this: have you read or watched any episodes of The 99? Did you pay to do so? Would you pay to read/view more of such? Do you have any reason to assert that anyone stands to make any money by distributing such? Or is the whole production simply a political football?
 
All joking and censorship aside, it’s a shame that the April 6 youth movement distanced themselves from her. Novemeber 25th was designated as the international day for the elimination of violence against women. For any real man, gender violence is hard to stomach.

Afghan Woman's Choice
 
One wonders what one is supposed to be able to infer from the mere existence of an Independent Lens documentary. Perhaps you could tell us about some of the other Independent Lens documentaries that you've seen, and relate the motivations for their production, so that we can see how this inference is supposed to work? Is it your contention that any subject of an Independent Lens documentary is, by default, a politically controversial phenomenon?



The best explanation for both of those things is exactly that The 99, and the narrative about American TV execs resisting it for ideological reasons, makes great fodder for the Independent Lens audience, and plays into the PR narrative that its producers have ridden to success so far.

It's worth keeping in mind that the entire motivation for turning The 99 into an animated series and pitching it to US television, is exactly that it does not sell enough to turn a profit in any of the Arabic-language markets it already appears in, despite warm reception from the media there and open backing of local politicians. Remove that agenda from the decision-making - leave it up to a bunch of executives who only care about profit - and the lack of airtime doesn't seem to demand anything beyond simple profit motive in the way of explanation. Of course, the producers of such could never simply admit that - and certainly, not in the documentary about them which is their big chance to pitch their product to a wider audience - so, unsurprisingly, we get a self-serving narrative about how their great, profitable product is being censored due to bigotry.

But, answer me this: have you read or watched any episodes of The 99? Did you pay to do so? Would you pay to read/view more of such? Do you have any reason to assert that anyone stands to make any money by distributing such? Or is the whole production simply a political football?

The point is that it was scheduled for release to The Hub and then it was pulled, a year ago so your commentary is superfluous

Hide your face and grab the kids. Coming soon to a TV in your child's bedroom is a posse of righteous, Sharia-com pliant Muslim superheroes -- including one who fights crime hidden head-to-toe by a burqa.

These Islamic butt-kickers are ready to bring truth, justice and indoctrination to impressionable Western minds.

Scheduled for release on the new network The Hub -- formerly Discovery Kids -- which launches today (Time Warner and DirecTV carry it in the city), is a cartoon beloved in the Arab world and received timidly in Britain last year, "The 99."

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/trading_cape_for_the_burqa_SVLKS5gF1HlJugmRPFJepL#ixzz1f4qjArw3

THE 99 is an animated series featuring superheroes inspired by Islamic culture and society. The series was scheduled to launch in the US last week on the The Hub children’s television network, but producers have since announced the broadcast will be postponed indefinitely. Vicious anti-Muslim bigots everywhere are gleeful, boasting that their small but boisterous outcry may have prompted the delay.

http://www.loonwatch.com/2011/10/the-99-superheroes-vs-the-loons/
 
All joking and censorship aside, it’s a shame that the April 6 youth movement distanced themselves from her. Novemeber 25th was designated as the international day for the elimination of violence against women. For any real man, gender violence is hard to stomach.

Afghan Woman's Choice

The case of Gulnaz was being discussed on CBC Radio just two days ago. It's hard to fathom the logic by which a woman who has herself been dishonored and harmed by rape should be imprisoned for the crime against her, and face the real possibility of an 'honor killing' by either her own family or that of the rapist if she is released.

I am having difficulty getting my head around that, no matter what direction I approach it from.
 
The case of Gulnaz was being discussed on CBC Radio just two days ago. It's hard to fathom the logic by which a woman who has herself been dishonored and harmed by rape should be imprisoned for the crime against her, and face the real possibility of an 'honor killing' by either her own family or that of the rapist if she is released.

I am having difficulty getting my head around that, no matter what direction I approach it from.

This could be because they consider her "damaged goods" - and damaged goods are best to be discarded.

This logic is not limited to some Muslim and Indian nations.

It seems to be something that everyone struggles with, and expresses it in some way or other.


Ever noticed how people tend to desert the one who has been a victim of crime?
 
It is all Men but Me . I am the only one standing . The last Man standing .

Why didn't someone tell Me James was a Christian Frat Man . God what is the matter with you girls . That one caught Me off guard . I got banned for not understanding that . It hurt so much to be away from you . It broke my heart . I cried a lot . He is in trouble with the Most Gracious now . I hate to see what happens to him . See that is the thing you sleepers don't understand . I am rubber you are glue . It bounces off of Me and sticks to the bad lands .

I am God . I know I insinuated I might not say it anymore , yet I left the door open so you could sneak right in . Don't fence Me in


Goofy your freaking out . Get a grip Man . They don't know . They are sleepers . James too . You woke up bro !!! You made it to heaven . It is just like they say . The one next to you will not be taken while you are .
I lived with it for a long time . Like I been trying to tell someone from my very birth . " THere Is A Monster under Me bed . Your my first confirmed Case Bro . Don't freak out cause it is all for a reason . Slow down and get a hold of your self . It is the hidden language
 
Amazing isn't it? If women veil, they scare the crap out of men [so much so that some men are forced to run them down]

From what I understood, the purpose of Muslim women wearing concealing clothes is that only the husband may see his wife.

The belief that there are things about a woman that only her husband may see or touch, seems universal, inherent in (almost) all human cultures.

This belief manifests in action differently in different cultures - Muslim women need to wear clothing that conceals their whole body, a Westerner's wife may be requested to wear clothes that don't show her cleavage etc. etc.



That said: it's not like this is a men vs. women issue, as if there would be a conspiracy of men against women.

Let's not forget who teaches all those Muslim boys to become the sort of Muslim men who they are: women.
 
From what I understood, the purpose of Muslim women wearing concealing clothes is that only the husband may see his wife.

The belief that there are things about a woman that only her husband may see or touch, seems universal, inherent in (almost) all human cultures.

This belief manifests in action differently in different cultures - Muslim women need to wear clothing that conceals their whole body, a Westerner's wife may be requested to wear clothes that don't show her cleavage etc. etc.



That said: it's not like this is a men vs. women issue, as if there would be a conspiracy of men against women.

Let's not forget who teaches all those Muslim boys to become the sort of Muslim men who they are: women.

Wynn why do they do that ? How long you going to be a beast of burden ? When you gonna wake up to your gender roll in life . Are you not tired of the abuse ? Your a woman right ? Christianity says plain and clear the woman is to be subservient to the husband . How long you going to live that lie? Men are pussy hounds . That is why they are called Dogs. They need to be treated like the dogs they are
 
Let's not forget who teaches all those Muslim boys to become the sort of Muslim men who they are: women.

Nope, Muslim Religious leaders who are ALL male, and Muslim men and women don't worship together (something about the woman having to put their butts in the air when they kiss the ground that is not allowed around men).

Women are all but absent from Islamic public and intellectual life....
May the Muslim community in North America lead the way in producing the first Muslim woman jurist in more than two centuries.


(note a Muslim jurist would be a religious leader)

http://www.themodernreligion.com/women/recognition.html
 
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In Muslim countries, by whom are children raised?

When a boy is born, is he immediately given over to the care of an all-male society?
 
In Muslim countries, by whom are children raised?

When a boy is born, is he immediately given over to the care of an all-male society?

You under-estimate the power of Islamic religious teaching.

Or do you believe a woman is going to teach her son something other than what is taught at the Mosque?
 
Bottomline:

It is Muslim women themselves who help in raising their sons into the kind of Muslim men that they are and that some people take objection to, considering them misogynist.

There is no male Muslim conspiracy against women.
 
In Muslim countries, by whom are children raised?

When a boy is born, is he immediately given over to the care of an all-male society?

You know, it's not bloody Dune or something over there.
 
There is no male Muslim conspiracy against women.

Considering that the religion in most countries is all Male and that the govt and religion have no separation, then yes it is most definitely a male oriented conspiracy against women.

That's why the Muslim men get all the power, rules and court judgments in their favor and Islamic women get to wear Burqas and can get punished for being raped.

You think they wouldn't really get in hot water if they taught something else besides the approved orthodoxy to their sons?
 
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