Duration" and "history" are both euphamisms for time - for AGE not TIME
properties of time - please name a single property of time
Does time exist?
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properties of time - please name a single property of time
DaveC426913
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This is boring.
What you call age, the rest of us call time.
A rose, by any other name...
Name me three properties of age and I'll name you three properties of time.
A difference without a difference is not a difference.
Sure OK if general consensus
Can't help if use definition in general consensus and not in more exacting form
time
\ˈtīm\
noun
- :thethingthatismeasuredasseconds,minutes,hours,days,years, etc.
- :aparticularminuteorhourshownby aclock
- :thetimein aparticularareaorpartof theworld
- 1 a:themeasuredormeasurableperiodduringwhichanaction,process, orconditionexistsorcontinues:duration
b:anonspatialcontinuumthatismeasuredintermsofeventswhichsucceedoneanotherfrompastthroughpresenttofuture
c:leisure<timeforreading> - 2:thepointorperiodwhensomethingoccurs:occasion
- 3 a:anappointed,fixed, orcustomarymomentorhourforsomethingtohappen,begin, or end<arrivedaheadoftime>
b:anopportuneorsuitablemoment<decidedit wastimetoretire>—oftenusedin thephraseabouttime<abouttimefor achange> - 4 a:ahistoricalperiod:age
b:adivisionofgeologicchronology
c:conditionsatpresentor atsomespecifiedperiod—usuallyusedinplural<timesarehard><movewiththetimes>
d:thepresenttime<issuesof thetime> - 5 a:lifetime
b:aperiodofapprenticeship
c:atermofmilitaryservice
d:aprisonsentence - 6:season<veryhot forthistimeofyear>
age
\ˈāj\
noun
- :theamountoftimeduringwhichapersonoranimalhaslived
- :theamountoftimeduringwhichathinghasexisted
- :thetimeoflifewhenapersondoessomethingorbecomeslegallyableto dosomething
As you can see circular reference each other
the thing - from the first definition - would you agree with MW time is a thing?
I don't play switch-a-roo
It's OK if you don't have any properties of TIME to name
Oblivionspace
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A clock doesn't do anything but that of the practitioners given semantics , to record history .
DaveC426913
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Yes, you do.
This whole 'age not time' is a switcheroo.
DaveC426913
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Then why did you mention it?
Oblivionspace
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So you still don't have a single property of TIME let alone 3 ✓
Side stepped
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Ummmm I wonder why
Unable to understand the difference between AGE and TIME ✓
Does not appear to understand circular referencing ✓
DaveC426913
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My point was that you used 'history'to describe what a clock does. How can you define history without referring to time?To clarify specifics and educate people !
So the statement 'there is no phenomena or entity of time' seems to be faulty.
DaveC426913
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Stop talking about side stepping. You are the one avoiding the problematic issue. You've provided zero support for this 'age' thing.
There's two issues here.
1] What is time, if anything? Does it have properties?
2] We should be talking about age instead.
Let's set aside question 1 for a moment. Question 2 is no better than question 1, so it adds nothing to the discussion except to obfuscate it.
If you object to question 1, you have no business raising question 2.
What is time, if anything?
Since my position is - TIME does not exist - I would have to go with - it is NOT anything
I could work with, it is a CONCEPT, which has no physicality and is undetectable
Does it have properties?
Given your inability to produce one what do you think?
AGE is a arbitrary measurement between two arbitrary NOWs
Talking about AGE completed
DaveC426913
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I am OK with discussing what properties, if any, time has.
Great. And what units are the measurements in?
How can there can two 'now's? One of then is not 'now'; it;s 'then'.
What units are this 'now' and this 'then' measured in?
What stops them from occurring simultaneously?
These are rhetorical questions; designed simply to show that age is every bit as problematic as time. So abstracting time to another level is simply obfuscation.
Good. Back on topic.
DaveC426913
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So, kind of like gravity. Or mass.
Whether or not they have "physicality", all of them can certainly be measured.
Great
Give a TIME property to discuss
And what units are the measurements in?
Arbitrary units. Second, minutes, hours, years are common. None of which exist except as CONCEPTS but useful concepts for comparison purposes
How can there can two 'now's?
Really? I mean really?
One NOW exist. It is marked and labelled. Stuff AGES. Another arbitrary NOW is marked and labelled
Suprise suprise the arbitrary period between is given a arbitrary measurement called, suprise suprise, AGE
Topic (AGE) completed (again)
Get back to topic? Sure
Does TIME exist is topic
But answered
Noooooooo
all of them can certainly be measured
so you missed where I stipulated
CONCEPT, which has no physicality and is undetectable
soooooo with gravity and mass being detectable puts those in the exist basket and nothing like TIME
DaveC426913
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How do you detect gravity? You don't. You detect what masses do and call it gravity.Noooooooo
all of them can certainly be measured
so you missed where I stipulated
CONCEPT, which has no physicality and is undetectable
soooooo with gravity and mass being detectable puts those in the exist basket and nothing like TIME
How is that different from detecting time?
Inability to produce a property of TIME and continued asking for information off topic indicates no property of TIME exist
Takes victory lap
DaveC426913
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OK, so Michael 345 has asserted that neither time, nor gravity nor mass exists.
I guess all we have left is solopsism.
I guess all we have left is solopsism.
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