Does time exist?

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Really, 102 pages? This thread is an embarrassment. There are basically a couple members with their finger in their ears saying, " nuh-uh" to something so obvious that it is mind boggling. Is there any chance to flush it to the cesspool where it belongs?:confused:
 
origin said:
Really, 102 pages? This thread is an embarrassment. There are basically a couple members with their finger in their ears saying, " nuh-uh" to something so obvious that it is mind boggling. Is there any chance to flush it to the cesspool where it belongs?
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The negative criticism does not contribute anything to this thread, arguments do.
 
origin said:
Really, 102 pages? This thread is an embarrassment. There are basically a couple members with their finger in their ears saying, " nuh-uh" to something so obvious that it is mind boggling. Is there any chance to flush it to the cesspool where it belongs?:confused:
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Care to provide evidence for the obvious?

:)
 
Time exists only for any biological sentient being . In the Universe . Because any biological being wants to order its surroundings , and therefore themselves , Natural hence in the beginning observations of the Sun and moon , seasons . Crops , floods , monsoons etc.

To the rest of the Universe ( energy and matter ), though , time does not exist . Time is irrelevant .

Time is an observation based concept . To change time is to change the movement(s) of the physical objects involved . You can't change nuclear fission by merely changing , " t " , in the equation . Nor in any chemical , or biochemical reaction .

And further , from what I have found , is that physicist exclude time in there thinking .
 
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river said:
Time exists only for any biological sentient being . In the Universe . Because any biological being wants to order its surroundings , and therefore themselves , Natural hence in the beginning observations of the Sun and moon , seasons . Crops , floods , monsoons etc.

To the rest of the Universe ( energy and matter ), though , time does not exist . Time is irrelevant .
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For what I could understand, your vision of time is from the subjective idealism. For this philosophical current to exist is to be perceived. If I exist, then time exists. But, the truth is that time exists regardless of whether we perceive it or not.

Time is an objective physical quantity.
 
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river said: ↑
Time exists only for any biological sentient being . In the Universe . Because any biological being wants to order its surroundings , and therefore themselves , Natural hence in the beginning observations of the Sun and moon , seasons . Crops , floods , monsoons etc.

To the rest of the Universe ( energy and matter ), though , time does not exist . Time is irrelevant .
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Asexperia said:
From what I could understand, your vision of time is from the subjective idealism. For this philosophical current to exist is to be perceived. If I exist, then time exists. But, the truth is that time exists regardless of whether we perceive it or not.
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What is subjective idealism ? In this context .
 
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river said: ↑
Time exists only for any biological sentient being . In the Universe . Because any biological being wants to order its surroundings , and therefore themselves , Natural hence in the beginning observations of the Sun and moon , seasons . Crops , floods , monsoons etc.

To the rest of the Universe ( energy and matter ), though , time does not exist . Time is irrelevant .
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river said: ↑
What is subjective idealism ?
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Asexperia said:
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No

I want your explanation .
 
since it is impossible to read 103 pages, can someone summarize the conclusions or the progress so far?
Are there any new insights about time, apart from the obvious ones?
 
river said:
Time exists only for any biological sentient being . In the Universe . Because any biological being wants to order its surroundings , and therefore themselves , Natural hence in the beginning observations of the Sun and moon , seasons . Crops , floods , monsoons etc.

To the rest of the Universe ( energy and matter ), though , time does not exist . Time is irrelevant .
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I agree with Asexperia that the world, and hence time exist without us. And it will continue to exist after we pass away
 
river said: ↑
Time exists only for any biological sentient being . In the Universe . Because any biological being wants to order its surroundings , and therefore themselves , Natural hence in the beginning observations of the Sun and moon , seasons . Crops , floods , monsoons etc.

To the rest of the Universe ( energy and matter ), though , time does not exist . Time is irrelevant .
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globali said:
I agree with Asexperia that the world, and hence time exist without us. And it will continue to exist after we pass away
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True , but miss leading .

Physical Movement by Physical things is the essence of time . Hence time will continue to exist after we pass . Because there is always a life form that will observe this movement .

But to the non-forms of life , time is never measured .
 
origin said:
How about I provide it in 6 days, 7 hours, 20 minutes and 18 seconds.
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So what ? So if you do ?

It only proves that we order our envirnoment . Does that prove that time exists in the bigger picture of our Universe , to the point that it matters our , 6 days , 7 hours , 20 minutes and 18 seconds ?

Of course NOT .
 
I don't really see much point in continuing this discussion. I think I've said everything that I need to say somewhere in the last 102 pages on this topic. If people still want to insist, in the face of all the evidence to the contrary, that time doesn't exist, then good luck to you. You're probably going to find yourself missing a lot of appointments, and you'll probably also find that most people won't take "I don't believe time exists" to be a valid excuse.

I'm out.
 
globali said:
Since it is impossible to read 103 pages, can someone summarize the conclusions or the progress so far?
Are there any new insights about time, apart from the obvious ones?
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I don't write for those who think that time exists. My writings to them seem obvious. My writings are addessed to those who doesn't believe in the existence of time. Not even the obvious makes them see the truth about time.
 
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Time in theory is a dimension of time and I agree with the way the theory is structured to be used as tool to educate, work and track time in general to orientate ourselves in our daily lives in spacetime. From this perspective time is a must.

A dimension is a measure and in the NOW “the only thing that exists” there is no measure yet. So there is no dimension of time in the physical now configuration like the space dimensions exist in the now. Only in sequential increments of now moments does the dimension arise as a dimension of a tracked timeline or motion? From this perspective "time" as a dimension is questionable?


NOW is a product of the past and the destiny of the future
 
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Only in sequential increments of now moments does the dimension arise as a dimension of a tracked timeline or motion
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sequential increments of now moments

appears to indicate the Universe has a stop/start system

The fascination for me is the smoothness of NOW always being in existence while changes are happening

:)
 
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