Does capitalism work?

Does capitalism work?

  • Yes

    Votes: 76 62.8%
  • No

    Votes: 45 37.2%

  • Total voters
    121
TimeTraveler said:
Sorry folks, communism did not beat capitalism.
Oh how sad. Maby I should cry my eyes out.
People are so single minded. They think in 2 idiot dimiensions.
 
TimeTraveler said:
Capitalism is a requirement for a functioning system, at least today, and likely for the rest of our lifetime.

Actually I think that's quite true. But just to be sure, you should amend that some. Communism, or any other form system, can work well in a SELF-SUFFICIENT, ISOLATED socio-economic environment. The problem with communism is that it is simply NOT set up to deal with "outsiders" ...in any way, shape or form, including another communist system.

Capitalism, however, seems perfectly blind to what the other systems are or how they function. Capitalism works equally well with any other socio-economic system ....from the outside, of course.

However, just so you know, I don't think any "pure" socio-economic system will work anywhere .....mainly, if not wholly, due to human greed and selfishness and general human failings. I.e., humans can fuck up anything!

Baron Max
 
cool skill said:
Oh how sad. Maby I should cry my eyes out.
People are so single minded. They think in 2 idiot dimiensions.

Cool Skill, from all I've read on this thread (and others), you seem to be totally incapable of realizing the natural human failings. Any "perfect" system you can devise can be totally fucked up by human greed, gluttony and selfishness. And when you try to stop those human failings, your system is no longer "perfect" ...so then what?

Baron Max
 
spuriousmonkey said:
No. Some also work in the culinary market steaming panda penises and sauteing dwarf livers.

After their glorious revolution, all those jobs went away. It wasn't until the country's economy started to grow (through capitalist practices) that they started selling things in markets again.
Cause you know, they had money to spend on reindeer testicles and stuff.
 
(Q) said:
Resources are required under any system and are exploited notwithstanding. The question would be under what system provides the incentives to manage and replenish those resources?


The amount of energy to illuminate a room (cave?) by caveman techonolgy was about 4,500 times less efficient than our modern light bulbs.

Advances in technology and total factor productivity are what allow us to continue growing without depleting out resources.
 
TruthSeeker said:
So communism is the only other alternative? :rolleyes:


Well, there's feudalism, fascism, anarchy and... a control economy.
But I didn't think you were seriously considering any of those, were you?
 
Baron Max said:
Actually I think that's quite true. But just to be sure, you should amend that some. Communism, or any other form system, can work well in a SELF-SUFFICIENT, ISOLATED socio-economic environment. The problem with communism is that it is simply NOT set up to deal with "outsiders" ...in any way, shape or form, including another communist system.
Communism is practiced very often. In some restaurants, the waiters throw their tips in a pool, then split them evenly between eachother at the end of the night.

The same for valet parkers.

This actually works in their favor because it is not about you as a waiter sabotoging other waiters in competition for customers. It is about teamates encouraging teamates. And if you are really good, you can encourage your teamates to do a good job so you can sit around, and do nothing.
 
Baron Max said:
Cool Skill, from all I've read on this thread (and others), you seem to be totally incapable of realizing the natural human failings. Any "perfect" system you can devise can be totally fucked up by human greed, gluttony and selfishness. And when you try to stop those human failings, your system is no longer "perfect" ...so then what?

Baron Max
I'm not sure you have been reading correctly because this has been discussed. Or perhaps it was in the other thread.

To get the gist of it, any person can do whatever they want when their mind is set on doing it. This goes for taking any system, and searching for the flaws.
City Design is not necessarily as sitting there, and creating a fool proof system. It is the process of studying how we can improve our abilities at creating a system with lesser and lesser flaws. It is a continuous study that involves lots of elasticity. If one thing doesn't work, the structure has to be addressed not by quickfixes, but actual foundational improvements.
These imptovements continue on, and get better and better just like technology gets better and better.


Idiot brainless morons such as yourself think in one dimensional either or. 'Well anything you design is suceptible to flaws and yadda yadda yadda'.
There is only one question, and I would really really like to know because it really doesn't make any sense:
Who the hell gives a crap?
 
sniffy said:
then they are all doomed to fail

Perhaps you're not understanding the context of incentive. A system doesn't necessarily have to fail simply because it requires incentives.

Are lotteries a failed or successful system for generating funds?
 
Roman said:
The amount of energy to illuminate a room (cave?) by caveman techonolgy was about 4,500 times less efficient than our modern light bulbs.

An excellent example of an incentive.

Advances in technology and total factor productivity are what allow us to continue growing without depleting out resources.

The product of that incentive.

Nice work.
 
cool skill said:
Communism is practiced very often. In some restaurants, the waiters throw their tips in a pool, then split them evenly between eachother at the end of the night.

Yeah, just like I said ....in an isolated system it might work. But even so, do you think that the hardest working waitresses are happy to share THEIR earnings with the laziest waitresses? Why do I not think so???

I'm also rather skeptical that the system you noted is in use in many places of the nation. Do you have any data to support your assertion? And it would be nice to have some input as to how well it actually works?

Baron Max
 
cool skill said:
What assertion are you talking about?
What the hell are you talking about?
What you are talking about is unclear. Please explain.

....LOL! You don't even know what you were talking about??? ...LOL! And I even quoted your words in order to show you exactly what meant! ...LOL!

Learn to read, and don't forget to learn comprehension while you're at it.

Baron Max
 
They use the system in the China Grill.
The China Grill since it opened in the early 90s has frequently been the #1 restaurant in Miami Beach. Whether that has anything to do with their pooling of tips or not will never be determined by anybody on the face of this earth.
 
Baron Max said:
....LOL! You don't even know what you were talking about??? ...LOL! And I even quoted your words in order to show you exactly what meant! ...LOL!

Learn to read, and don't forget to learn comprehension while you're at it.

Baron Max

TIP:

3 LOLs in a post makes you look retarded (even more than you are).
 
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