Well, what else is there? Are you suggesting that there may be an actual outside influence that intensive "practice" taps into? A god, maybe?
Do atheists indocrinate their children into their belief system?
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Superluminal,
I'll put it this way -
Why do you think it is important to believe in God?
Why do you think it is important whether and on the grounds of what others believe in God?
In an ideal scenario, why would you, personally, believe in God - what would God have to be like in order for you to believe in him, and what is it that you think God could give you which you cannot obtain any other way?
I'll put it this way -
Why do you think it is important to believe in God?
Why do you think it is important whether and on the grounds of what others believe in God?
In an ideal scenario, why would you, personally, believe in God - what would God have to be like in order for you to believe in him, and what is it that you think God could give you which you cannot obtain any other way?
I think I understand what you are saying and why.
My question though is (and has always been) what bearing do my personal reasons and perceptions, no matter how well "trained", have on the objective existence of god?
The highly trained and accomplished monk perceives god and declares it so.
Brushing all of the mysticism and traditional reverence for such a thing aside, So what? Just a simple "So what?"
Well, you have your reason(s) to devote so much time and energy to discussions about God.
Perhaps that reason (or reasons) has something to do with God, perhaps not.
It might be a good thing to figure out what those reasons are, and then see from there what you can do to address them most efficiently.
I do realize this is easier said than done.
I know my reasons. They have nothing to do with god per se. They have more to do with an exploration of why people choose to fill certain areas of their lives with mysticism.
And on par, I devote very little time and energy to it.
The answer to this question is pretty obvious, some atheists, some atheists don't, you can't label all atheists and say they all take this action
No, not necessarily, I know many theists who didn't raise their children as theists
Why do you enjoy labeling people?
Atheists are always trying to declare the supremacy of atheism
No it isn't, only of some organized religions
How come you are interested in why people choose to fill certain areas of their lives with mysticism?
Do you think you can offer better solutions to the questions and dilemmas that some people resolve by "mysticism"? If yes, what are those solutions that you offer?
How much is that, in hours per day?
The reason people resort to religion or mysticism is because they cant handle ambiguity.
you're not paying attention
I said where there is no conviction, there is no indoctrination
that bable of yours about what is atheism and what's agnosticism was irrelevant
it doesnt matter what you are, you indoctrinate your children when you are absolutely sure that something is true
I said where there is no conviction, there is no indoctrination
that bable of yours about what is atheism and what's agnosticism was irrelevant
it doesnt matter what you are, you indoctrinate your children when you are absolutely sure that something is true
No I was paying attention
You said "unless its Strong atheism" so I commented saying and also de facto atheism
We seem to agree that its not all of this group or another group
yes, but I mean from your subjective view point
Enmos
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You mean like the priests that abuse little kids ? Abusing kids is good to them so it's fine if they start indoctrinating people with this idea ?
Oh no thats horrible
Its horrible to indoctrinate someone with this idea, which is why most religions condemn that type of behavior and have moral laws