It's absurd to think that there's a shortcut.
Do atheists indocrinate their children into their belief system?
- Thread starter S.A.M.
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Why not? Something so precious, I don't see why the whole of humanity wouldn't collectively work toward it for millennia.
Why, just because there's no easy answer? Shouldn't important answers be HARDER to come by?
- Burnam P. Beckwith, Free Inquiry, 1986.
There's a review of some of the studies here: http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-thinkingchristians.htm
Why must our lives be a joke ?Instead of waiting indefinitely for Godot, we can give our lives purpose. An outside agency is unnecessary.
How do you think you would recognize truth, whatever you take it to mean ? I suggest that it would be a modus vivendi that put you at ease with yourself and the world. If you have any other criteria , it would be interesting to hear what they are; otherwise you are merely seeking a belief system which will make you feel good.
Finally, are you convinced that the question of what truth is has an answer ?
How do you know his findings aren't propoganda, we only have his word, backed by the Council for Secular Humanism to go on?
I've done a quick search and there doesn't seem to be any info about the method, and a load of atheist jumping on the bandwagon.
You have no evidence for your claim.
Jan.
:roflmao:
43 separate studies conducted decades apart by different people are part of a vast conspiracy to write an article in a minor publication in the mid 80s?
That seems... a little far-fetched.
If one's life is relatively well and safe, yes, then one can comfort oneself with such platitudes.
Otherwise, one will want something of more substance and availability.
I guess it would from our perspective.
But it does strike me as odd, that there is no evidence to back this up, yet it is accepted as truth, by those that claim; "we go where the evidence leads".
I was once surprised to see how many people it took to do a 3 minute magic trick. The trick was to make a woman appear as though she was levitating.
Well over 40 people.
Jan.
It's amazing how you invert these concepts.
Something that I can tell you to believe, but not demonstrate, I would call a platitude, and entirely unsubstantial.
Something that I can concretely demonstrate, I would claim has substance.
How you've inverted those, I'm not certain.
Are you implying that the studies don't exist, or that atheists are part of a large shadowy organization aimed at dominating the internet forums with false information?
Enmos
Valued Senior Member
Shhhh !
Which kind of intelligence were they testing for?
And how is that particular intelligence the most relevant one for human intelligence?
Yep. Between US culture and standard education, exposure is all abound.
I don't offer such a choice nor do I prevent one.
Not here, but it could always happen.
I think what you might be looking for are the different ways atheists raise children with respect to the human propensity to 'believe' weird things. From a cognitive standpoint all I can do is help them think well by promoting evidence based critical thinking, teach them about the known types of natural human hallucination and how to recognize them, and help them understand what their particular emotional / psychological needs are and how to meet them (ex. some children are prone to fantasy so it helps them alot to give them outlets for it -an underlying message being that its ok to imagine and pretend at any age as long as its ultimately recognized as being make believe-).
I'm implying nothing, just asking for the evidence.
Am I right in thinking you cant supply it?
Jan.
I provided a list of the studies cited. What are you looking for exactly?
The studies ARE t-h-e e-v-i-d-e-n-c-e
Do you not believe that they exist, or are you implying that they were all faked?
Belief doesn't come into. Anybody can say anything to suit their own purposes. I just want to see the evidence, is that such a hard thing?
JAN.