The FACT that you called it a fact just highlights your stupdity. I have researched the possibilty of anceint super civilzations and found no evidnce of the sort.
Destruction of the world
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The very atomic powers that destroyed the world then will destroy it again.
They built the sphinx and the pyramid and all those things, that no gasoline or no other power in the world could do, but atomic power.
And some fanatic got a hold of it, and when he did, it blowed the Earth from standing up right away from the sun.
When anything's hot and goes out in the cold, it causes a vapor, and that's what causes our rain today.
I said I have proof.
What's proof to me, may not be to you....
They built the sphinx and the pyramid and all those things, that no gasoline or no other power in the world could do, but atomic power.
And some fanatic got a hold of it, and when he did, it blowed the Earth from standing up right away from the sun.
When anything's hot and goes out in the cold, it causes a vapor, and that's what causes our rain today.
I said I have proof.
What's proof to me, may not be to you....
You wanna know what power bult the pyramids? Slave power. Same for the sphinx. Our rain is a cycle. Its a cyclke that been happening for billions of years.
Slave power. Is that so hard to grasp?TheVisitor said:
You need to read up on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_cycleTheVisitor said:
You hit the nail right on the nut there.TheVisitor said:
Slave power didn't build those pyramids.
You've all been watching too many movies.
You can't even push a loaded rail car on tracks with human power.
Those blocks weigh hundreds of tons.
The precision of the first or "great pyramid" shows it was built by a group with greater technical knowhow.
Remember, according to your science gods we monkey men were still in the stone age just crawling out of caves.
The astronomical information designed into the dimensions of the great pyramid show that to be a fallacy,
It was built by a great civilization.
And that wasn't Egypt in 3000 B.C.
It was built by a culture at the peak of advanced civilization before the destruction of the world as a monument with a message.
Slave labor..... LOL
Yeah, you hit the nut there.
Go ahead and believe what you will.
You've all been watching too many movies.
You can't even push a loaded rail car on tracks with human power.
Those blocks weigh hundreds of tons.
The precision of the first or "great pyramid" shows it was built by a group with greater technical knowhow.
Remember, according to your science gods we monkey men were still in the stone age just crawling out of caves.
The astronomical information designed into the dimensions of the great pyramid show that to be a fallacy,
It was built by a great civilization.
And that wasn't Egypt in 3000 B.C.
It was built by a culture at the peak of advanced civilization before the destruction of the world as a monument with a message.
Slave labor..... LOL
Yeah, you hit the nut there.
Go ahead and believe what you will.
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So they built a large structure with their awesome technology, then forgot to equip it with their other technology? That would be like us building a skyscraper and not fitting plumbing, electricity and lifts. Your argument makes no sense.TheVisitor said:
Also, you seem to be ignoring the logs that they used to roll the blocks on. And the massive groups of slaves used to pull said blocks.
The egypians used tens of thousands of slaves to build the pyramids it isnt that hard to do. On the history channel it showed how just a group of 50 people could move huge stones up ramps. And Your fantasy is getting in the way of reality. If they wanted to leave a message make a pyramid out of metal and not stone.
I don't know where to find any publication of this, but last year in my history of architecture class, my professor was talking about a study that was done that tested the density of the blocks used to build the pyramids. there isn't any rock around the area that matches the density of the blocks used, so the idea was proposed that the egyptians had come up with a way of pouring these blocks, like concrete. I don't know much about it other than that, but it seems reasonable enough.
Visitor, You think scientists don't perform carbon tests on things that they discover within the pyramids? you think they wouldn't know if they were more than 3000 years old?
Visitor, You think scientists don't perform carbon tests on things that they discover within the pyramids? you think they wouldn't know if they were more than 3000 years old?
crazy151drinker
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http://www.popsci.com/popsci/science/b087f8154d49b010vgnvcm1000004eecbccdrcrd.html
Interesting article talks how it is not possible to blow up a planet with nukes.
There are paintings inside egyptian tombs showing slaves building the pryamids. It shows them using slaves and ropes to pull the stone blocks.
"You can't even push a loaded rail car on tracks with human power."
They didnt push it- they PULLED it. Big difference. Havnt you seen the strong men who pull rail cars with their teeth?
From http://www.guardians.net/egypt/gp1.htm
"The blocks used in the pyramid are large, with a commonly stated average of 2.5 tons. Many blocks are indeed smaller than this, the blocks toward the top decrease in size. Some of the casing stones at the base are very large, weighing as much as 15 tons. The heaviest blocks are the granite blocks used to roof the kings chambers and the weight relieving chambers above the king’s chamber. These are estimated to weigh from 50 to 80 tons each!!"
I dont know if they mean US tons or Metric- but being that the Metric is heavier will go with that (i'll make it harder for the slaves...)
15 Metric tons=33069 pounds. Now if you had 300 people pulling on it each person would only be pulling 110.23 pounds- too easy!
The biggest rock 80 Metic tons=176370 pounds..sounds heavy. 2000 people pulling on it- each person is pulling 80 pounds! too easy!
Now as the article states the average block weight was only 2.5 tons (5512 pounds). Now this is light weight stuff. 100 people- 55 pounds a piece.
So as you can see using slave labor alone the egyptians could have pulled these stones with ease.
3000BC was hardly the age of "Monkey Men"
There is something truely flawed with your beliefs if you can accept some ultrahightech alien civilization that flys through space yet the its means of power storage is the worthless 4 volt baghdad battery. Were their supernukes made out of clay to?
Interesting article talks how it is not possible to blow up a planet with nukes.
There are paintings inside egyptian tombs showing slaves building the pryamids. It shows them using slaves and ropes to pull the stone blocks.
"You can't even push a loaded rail car on tracks with human power."
They didnt push it- they PULLED it. Big difference. Havnt you seen the strong men who pull rail cars with their teeth?
From http://www.guardians.net/egypt/gp1.htm
"The blocks used in the pyramid are large, with a commonly stated average of 2.5 tons. Many blocks are indeed smaller than this, the blocks toward the top decrease in size. Some of the casing stones at the base are very large, weighing as much as 15 tons. The heaviest blocks are the granite blocks used to roof the kings chambers and the weight relieving chambers above the king’s chamber. These are estimated to weigh from 50 to 80 tons each!!"
I dont know if they mean US tons or Metric- but being that the Metric is heavier will go with that (i'll make it harder for the slaves...)
15 Metric tons=33069 pounds. Now if you had 300 people pulling on it each person would only be pulling 110.23 pounds- too easy!
The biggest rock 80 Metic tons=176370 pounds..sounds heavy. 2000 people pulling on it- each person is pulling 80 pounds! too easy!
Now as the article states the average block weight was only 2.5 tons (5512 pounds). Now this is light weight stuff. 100 people- 55 pounds a piece.
So as you can see using slave labor alone the egyptians could have pulled these stones with ease.
3000BC was hardly the age of "Monkey Men"
There is something truely flawed with your beliefs if you can accept some ultrahightech alien civilization that flys through space yet the its means of power storage is the worthless 4 volt baghdad battery. Were their supernukes made out of clay to?
crazy151drinker said:
Your confusing different issues.
I never said "alien"....your been reading to many "Stitchim" books.
I disagree with their "channeled" demon-alien story.
I never said the Baghdad battery was the example to call the greatest.
It was probably just a electroplating device to make gold plating.
You can't pull it either...15tons on sand or logs or whatever.
Nonsense.
And the mark of their advancement wasn't just piling stones up in a heap, the design of it and the placement all state an understanding.
Egypt found the great pyramid in the desert after the flood and built around it, copied it to lesser degree and wrote on the tombs claiming it as a burial tomb.
They may have eventually built the other pyramids, but they were of much lesser quality......copies of the original which was created as a monument to Jehovah by Enoch and the sons of God before the flood.
As Muslims today have done with other monuments to Jehovah, they build their masques and temples to idols and their own gods right on top of the same site to try and destroy and defile it in the name of their god.
Look at the temple site in Jerusalem.
The valley of kings burial tombs were underground, not the great pyramid.
Its a classic example of stealing someone else's goods and claiming them for your own.
The pyramid was covered with finely finished limestone casing that were polished to a mirrored finnish.
They stole those also and Muslims used them to build masques all over Arabia.
Not only could Man before the flood destroy the world with technology, but they built a monument that would withstand the destruction.
Thats more that we could do today, my friend.
Try looking into it with something other than a skeptics lack of enthusiasm, and you might find something out.
Otherwise, quit wasting our time with the "Argumentum ad nauseam"
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You can't pull it either...15tons on sand or logs or whatever.
Nonsense.
Your nonsense. Ever wach the strong man compeitions? One man can pull a Semi by himself so imagine 100s or even 1000s pulling something. So please stop being stupid and realize the fact that your super-civilizations didnt exist.
Nonsense.
Your nonsense. Ever wach the strong man compeitions? One man can pull a Semi by himself so imagine 100s or even 1000s pulling something. So please stop being stupid and realize the fact that your super-civilizations didnt exist.
spiritual_spy said:
I'll repeat this for you;
"Quit wasting our time with the "Argumentum ad nauseam""
Its Latin. Have fun looking it up.
Babelfish doesn't do Latin.
No wait I'll do it for you........it means your making me sick,....
"Your banging of your head against the wall."
"Do you speak English?"
"Your arguing the issue to the point of nausea."
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yes i know what it means. The fact is there is no evidence supporting your super civilization while there is mountains supporting the egyptians. Evidence > Faith.
Argumentum ad nauseam
This is the incorrect belief that an assertion is more likely to be true, or is more likely to be accepted as true, the more often it is heard. So an Argumentum ad Nauseam is one that employs constant repetition in asserting something; saying the same thing over and over again until you're sick of hearing it.
On Usenet, your argument is often less likely to be heard if you repeat it over and over again, as people will tend to put you in their kill files.
Argumentum ad nauseam
This is the incorrect belief that an assertion is more likely to be true, or is more likely to be accepted as true, the more often it is heard. So an Argumentum ad Nauseam is one that employs constant repetition in asserting something; saying the same thing over and over again until you're sick of hearing it.
On Usenet, your argument is often less likely to be heard if you repeat it over and over again, as people will tend to put you in their kill files.
The Egyptians did have a great civilization after the flood.
I'm not denying that.
But God destroyed them.
They never came back from it to world dominance, after Moses brought the supernatural power of God against them.
Even though they had a great civilization, they were just a remnant of what existed before the world was destroyed.
Look at America today.....
Ravage, plunder, see no wonder, rape and kill and tear asunder
Chop the forest, plow it under.....
"Highways scar the mountainsides, buildings to the sky, people all around.
Houses stand in endless rows, sea to shining sea"
Do you think our fate will be different?
In 5,000 years they will be doubting you ever had something called a computer, and when they find some cave painting of Ozzy eating the head off a bat, what do you think they will make of it?
They will say...
"Stop being stupid and realize the fact that your super-civilizations didnt exist."
I'm not denying that.
But God destroyed them.
They never came back from it to world dominance, after Moses brought the supernatural power of God against them.
Even though they had a great civilization, they were just a remnant of what existed before the world was destroyed.
Look at America today.....
Ravage, plunder, see no wonder, rape and kill and tear asunder
Chop the forest, plow it under.....
"Highways scar the mountainsides, buildings to the sky, people all around.
Houses stand in endless rows, sea to shining sea"
Do you think our fate will be different?
In 5,000 years they will be doubting you ever had something called a computer, and when they find some cave painting of Ozzy eating the head off a bat, what do you think they will make of it?
They will say...
"Stop being stupid and realize the fact that your super-civilizations didnt exist."
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Oli said:
God used Moses to speak His word and destroy Egypt.
God used Man who turned from a more perfect existence in His kingdom, and leaning upon their own understanding without realizing the spiritual forces that already rebelled against God that were standing there ready to deceive them, developed the ability to destroy the world.
And God let them bring about their own destruction as He said would happen when they turned from faith in Him and Life to unbelief and death, in the attempt at handling the power of unlimited knowledge without the character to control it.
God uses Man, so when He said "I'll destroy the Earth, He let Man do it.
Same as this time...He said 5000 years ago He would never destroy the world with a flood again, but next time He would destroy it by fire.
And Man discovers nuclear energy again.
Could it be any clearer?
So that's yes AND no is it? They brought about their own destruction by letting Moses speak... wow, some orator.
Surely if they had unlimited knowledge then they'd know the consequences of setting off the bomb? Or even the solutions to making everyone happy so that they wouldn't even need to build a (fictional) bomb?
Clearer? Oh, I think it really could be made clearer. I mean now you're saying god foretold all this... so we don't have any say in the matter, no free will since if we chose not to do it then we'd be proving god wrong... So basically it's all done just to stop him getting bored
Surely if they had unlimited knowledge then they'd know the consequences of setting off the bomb? Or even the solutions to making everyone happy so that they wouldn't even need to build a (fictional) bomb?
Clearer? Oh, I think it really could be made clearer. I mean now you're saying god foretold all this... so we don't have any say in the matter, no free will since if we chose not to do it then we'd be proving god wrong... So basically it's all done just to stop him getting bored
1.Egypt wasnt destroyed by Moses or God. Egypt was destryoed by Civil war and the persians. http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/5809/discover/decline2.html
2.Man never had more power than we do now. Point void.
3.Same as this time...He said 5000 years ago He would never destroy the world with a flood again, but next time He would destroy it by fire.
And Man discovers nuclear energy again.
He never destroyed it by flood to begin with. Point void. And if you want to argue i have more than enough evidence to proove that a global flood never happened.
2.Man never had more power than we do now. Point void.
3.Same as this time...He said 5000 years ago He would never destroy the world with a flood again, but next time He would destroy it by fire.
And Man discovers nuclear energy again.
He never destroyed it by flood to begin with. Point void. And if you want to argue i have more than enough evidence to proove that a global flood never happened.
More than enough for who?spiritual_spy said:
LOL
You faied to comment on this......
Look at America today.....(borrowed from "Song for America")
Ravage, plunder, see no wonder, rape and kill and tear asunder
Chop the forest, plow it under.....
"Highways scar the mountainsides, buildings to the sky, people all around.
Houses stand in endless rows, sea to shining sea"
Do you think our fate will be different?
In 5,000 years they will be doubting you ever had something called a computer, and when they find some cave painting of Ozzy eating the head off a bat, what do you think they will make of it?
They will say...
"Stop being stupid and realize the fact that your super-civilizations didnt exist."
5000 years humanity itself will be a super-civilzation.