Also, Bible != scientific proof.
Destruction of the world
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spiritual_spy said:
OK.....Here is one source for the martyrs.
http://www.ccel.org/f/foxe/martyrs/home.html
The religious / political force ...the Vatican killed 68 million for standing for the truth and opposing its false doctrine between 325A.D. and approx 1500A.D.
Thats just the ones that were documented.
President Lincoln made the statement in the 1860s that the Vatican's ambition was to control the United States.
He said " Our greatest danger is not the invasion of a foreign army, but the daily infestation of the "black robed priests"." upon our soil.
Here is a document researched on the history of the United States.
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/16960/16960-h/16960-h.htm
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Daniel 4:7-8, "I saw a tree of great height at the center of the world. It was large and strong, with its top touching the heavens, and it could be seen from the ends of the earth." = flat Earth
Matthew 4:8, "The devil took him (Jesus) to a very high mountain and displayed before him all the kingdoms of the world in their magnificence...." = flat Earth
Matthew 4:8, "The devil took him (Jesus) to a very high mountain and displayed before him all the kingdoms of the world in their magnificence...." = flat Earth
You are talking about the catholic protestant wars?
And your non-sense about the vatican controlling the world is nonsense. Kennedy wasnt killed by the vatican he was killed by castro. He openly called for castros assination.
Lincon was also not killed by the vatican he was killed by southern loyalists who were mad about the war. And yes the earth has been down this path before. Its a path called religously induced stupidity. ( The Bush bigots are nothing more than a bunch of crusaders on a holy war with Islam) And please stop with the world control nonsense. Science is Science, there is no false science (Unless you count creation science or ID) And id like you to show me some of this so called "False" science.
And your non-sense about the vatican controlling the world is nonsense. Kennedy wasnt killed by the vatican he was killed by castro. He openly called for castros assination.
Lincon was also not killed by the vatican he was killed by southern loyalists who were mad about the war. And yes the earth has been down this path before. Its a path called religously induced stupidity. ( The Bush bigots are nothing more than a bunch of crusaders on a holy war with Islam) And please stop with the world control nonsense. Science is Science, there is no false science (Unless you count creation science or ID) And id like you to show me some of this so called "False" science.
Oh, sorry, I didn't use YOUR translation of the bible. It's pretty much the same words in the new International Version
http://www.biblegateway.com/
I suppose the bible also never claimed that the Earth was at the centre of the solar system either?
Now your just in denial. the bible does indeed imply(SP?) that the earth is flat. Its in your scripture like it or not.
Here is the book that quotes Lincoln stating the U.S. was at war, and was being overrun covertly by the Vatican.
Testimony by a former priest.
50 years in the church of Rome.
http://www.biblebelievers.com/chiniquy/
From Chapter 61...
Booth was nothing but a tool of the Jesuits. It was Rome who directed his arm
.....the President, Abraham Lincoln, was assassinated by the priests and the Jesuits of Rome.
Testimony by a former priest.
50 years in the church of Rome.
http://www.biblebelievers.com/chiniquy/
From Chapter 61...
Booth was nothing but a tool of the Jesuits. It was Rome who directed his arm
.....the President, Abraham Lincoln, was assassinated by the priests and the Jesuits of Rome.
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In the summer of 1864, Booth met with several well-known Confederate sympathizers at The Parker House in Boston, Massachusetts. In October 1864 he made an unexplained trip to Montreal. At the time, Montreal was a well known center of clandestine Confederate activities. It is known that he spent ten days in the city and stayed for a time at St. Lawrence Hall, a meeting place for the Confederate Secret Service, and met at least one blockade runner there. It is possible that it was here that he also met Confederate Secret Service director James D. Bulloch (later an uncle to Theodore Roosevelt) as well as George Nicholas Sanders, a one-time US ambassador to England with revolutionary sentiments who had once called for the assassination of French ruler Napoleon III.
History > Propaganda
History > Propaganda
The constitution of the United States is based upon the principles of fraternity, equality, liberty, and tolerance.
Is it on those admirable principles that the Church of Rome is founded? No! for she has, thousands of times, proclaimed that her mission was to destroy them all, even if she had to wade in the blood of those who support them.
Why is it that the poor, the bruised, the wounded, and the oppressed from every land turn their eyes, their hearts, and their steps towards this country? It is because all the echoes of heaven and earth have told them that the Untied States Republic is, par excellence, the land of fraternity, fair play, equality, and liberty.
The Pope of Rome and his Jesuits know this better than any one.
Hence their constant and supreme efforts to destroy this Republic.
Believing and preaching that it is their duty to exterminate the individuals who differ from them in religion, they assume that it is their duty to destroy the governments and the nations who refuse to submit to their yoke, when they can do it safely.
The mission of Rome being to teach that the inferior, the people, must obey his superior, just as the corpse obeys the hand which moves it, or as the stick obeys the arm which directs it, she knows well that she cannot fulfill her mission and attain her object so long as this government of a free, sovereign people, stands; she is, then, bound to oppose, paralyze, and destroy that government when she finds her opportunity.
Rome knew that it was in the bosom of every true citizen of the United States to propagate those accursed (by her) principles of equality, fraternity, and liberty all over the world.
She saw that the irresistible influence of those principles were felt on the most distant nations, as well as on the poor, miserable Irish people, she was keeping under her heavy and ignominious yoke; she understood that there was a real danger for her very existence, if those principles would continue to spread; that her slavery star would go down as the liberty star would rise on the horizon.
In a word, Rome saw at once that the very existence of the United States was a formidable menace to her own life.
Already she had seen the chains of two millions of her Irish slaves melted at the simple touch of the warm rays of liberty which had fallen from the stars and stripes banners.
From the very beginning she sowed the germs of division and hatred between the two great sections of this country, and she felt an unspeakable joy when she saw that she had succeeded in dividing its South from the North, on the burning question of slavery.
She looked upon that division as her golden opportunity.
To crush one party by the other, and reign over the bloody ruins of both, has invariably been her policy.
She hoped that the hour of her supreme triumph over this continent was come.
She ordered her elder son, the Emperor of France, to keep himself ready to help her to crush the North, by having an army in Mexico ready to support the South, and she bade all the Roman Catholic bishops, priests, and people to enroll themselves under the banners of slavery, by joining themselves to the party of the Democracy.
Above everything, it was ordered to oppose the election of Abraham Lincoln at any cost.
For, from the very first day that his eloquent voice had been heard, a thrill of terror had gone through the hearts of the partisans of slavery.
The Democratic press, which was then, as it is still now, almost entirely under the control of the Roman Catholics, and the devoted tool of the Jesuits, deluged the country with the most fearful denunciations against him.
They called him an ape, a stupid brute, a most dangerous lunatic, a bloody monster, a merciless tyrant, ect., ect.
In a word, Rome exhausted all her resources of language, she ransacked the English dictionary to find the most suitable expressions to fill the people with contempt, hatred, and horror against him.
But it was written in the decrees of God that honest Abraham Lincoln should be proclaimed President of the United States, the 4th of March 1861.
Lincoln wrote;.."I am so glad to meet you again," he said: "you see that your friends, the Jesuits, have not yet killed me.
But they would have surely done it when I passed through their most devoted city, Baltimore, had I not defeated their plans, by passing incognito a few hours before they expected me.
We have the proof that the company which has been selected and organized to murder me was led by a rabid Roman Catholic, called Byrne; it was almost entirely composed of Roman Catholics; more than that, there were two disguised priests among them, to lead and encourage them.
I am sorry to have so little time to see you: but I will not let you go before telling you that, a few days ago, I saw Mr. Morse, the learned inventor of electric telegraphy: he told me that when he was in Rome, not long ago, he found out the proofs of a most formidable conspiracy against this country and all its institutions.
It is evident that it is to the intrigues and emissaries of the Pope that we owe, in great part, the horrible evil war which is threatening to cover the country with blood and ruins.
"I am sorry that Professor Morse had to leave Rome before he could know more about the secret plans of the Jesuits against the liberties and the very existence of this country.
The Roman catholic institution seeing the United States as a threat to world dominance succeeded in dividing its South from the North, on the burning question of slavery.
They covertly sponsored the Civil War, and also assasinated president Abraham Lincoln who besides being president, was an honest Christian sworn to expose them and set the world free, starting with the United States and speading to every nation in the world.
They succeeded in overthrowing the government from with, and to this day influence the policies, politics, and laws of the greatest nation on Earth.
What we once were, and what we have fallen from, is being a representative of the very grace of almighty God.
But I fear, in His judgment against the great harlot the Vatican, the United States will be taken down also, because she has been these many years subverted by the proponents of darkness, slavery, and unbelief in the Word of truth and justice which at first raised her up to such an exalted status among the nations of the world.
May the truth be known and we always stand for it.
Is it on those admirable principles that the Church of Rome is founded? No! for she has, thousands of times, proclaimed that her mission was to destroy them all, even if she had to wade in the blood of those who support them.
Why is it that the poor, the bruised, the wounded, and the oppressed from every land turn their eyes, their hearts, and their steps towards this country? It is because all the echoes of heaven and earth have told them that the Untied States Republic is, par excellence, the land of fraternity, fair play, equality, and liberty.
The Pope of Rome and his Jesuits know this better than any one.
Hence their constant and supreme efforts to destroy this Republic.
Believing and preaching that it is their duty to exterminate the individuals who differ from them in religion, they assume that it is their duty to destroy the governments and the nations who refuse to submit to their yoke, when they can do it safely.
The mission of Rome being to teach that the inferior, the people, must obey his superior, just as the corpse obeys the hand which moves it, or as the stick obeys the arm which directs it, she knows well that she cannot fulfill her mission and attain her object so long as this government of a free, sovereign people, stands; she is, then, bound to oppose, paralyze, and destroy that government when she finds her opportunity.
Rome knew that it was in the bosom of every true citizen of the United States to propagate those accursed (by her) principles of equality, fraternity, and liberty all over the world.
She saw that the irresistible influence of those principles were felt on the most distant nations, as well as on the poor, miserable Irish people, she was keeping under her heavy and ignominious yoke; she understood that there was a real danger for her very existence, if those principles would continue to spread; that her slavery star would go down as the liberty star would rise on the horizon.
In a word, Rome saw at once that the very existence of the United States was a formidable menace to her own life.
Already she had seen the chains of two millions of her Irish slaves melted at the simple touch of the warm rays of liberty which had fallen from the stars and stripes banners.
From the very beginning she sowed the germs of division and hatred between the two great sections of this country, and she felt an unspeakable joy when she saw that she had succeeded in dividing its South from the North, on the burning question of slavery.
She looked upon that division as her golden opportunity.
To crush one party by the other, and reign over the bloody ruins of both, has invariably been her policy.
She hoped that the hour of her supreme triumph over this continent was come.
She ordered her elder son, the Emperor of France, to keep himself ready to help her to crush the North, by having an army in Mexico ready to support the South, and she bade all the Roman Catholic bishops, priests, and people to enroll themselves under the banners of slavery, by joining themselves to the party of the Democracy.
Above everything, it was ordered to oppose the election of Abraham Lincoln at any cost.
For, from the very first day that his eloquent voice had been heard, a thrill of terror had gone through the hearts of the partisans of slavery.
The Democratic press, which was then, as it is still now, almost entirely under the control of the Roman Catholics, and the devoted tool of the Jesuits, deluged the country with the most fearful denunciations against him.
They called him an ape, a stupid brute, a most dangerous lunatic, a bloody monster, a merciless tyrant, ect., ect.
In a word, Rome exhausted all her resources of language, she ransacked the English dictionary to find the most suitable expressions to fill the people with contempt, hatred, and horror against him.
But it was written in the decrees of God that honest Abraham Lincoln should be proclaimed President of the United States, the 4th of March 1861.
Lincoln wrote;.."I am so glad to meet you again," he said: "you see that your friends, the Jesuits, have not yet killed me.
But they would have surely done it when I passed through their most devoted city, Baltimore, had I not defeated their plans, by passing incognito a few hours before they expected me.
We have the proof that the company which has been selected and organized to murder me was led by a rabid Roman Catholic, called Byrne; it was almost entirely composed of Roman Catholics; more than that, there were two disguised priests among them, to lead and encourage them.
I am sorry to have so little time to see you: but I will not let you go before telling you that, a few days ago, I saw Mr. Morse, the learned inventor of electric telegraphy: he told me that when he was in Rome, not long ago, he found out the proofs of a most formidable conspiracy against this country and all its institutions.
It is evident that it is to the intrigues and emissaries of the Pope that we owe, in great part, the horrible evil war which is threatening to cover the country with blood and ruins.
"I am sorry that Professor Morse had to leave Rome before he could know more about the secret plans of the Jesuits against the liberties and the very existence of this country.
The Roman catholic institution seeing the United States as a threat to world dominance succeeded in dividing its South from the North, on the burning question of slavery.
They covertly sponsored the Civil War, and also assasinated president Abraham Lincoln who besides being president, was an honest Christian sworn to expose them and set the world free, starting with the United States and speading to every nation in the world.
They succeeded in overthrowing the government from with, and to this day influence the policies, politics, and laws of the greatest nation on Earth.
What we once were, and what we have fallen from, is being a representative of the very grace of almighty God.
But I fear, in His judgment against the great harlot the Vatican, the United States will be taken down also, because she has been these many years subverted by the proponents of darkness, slavery, and unbelief in the Word of truth and justice which at first raised her up to such an exalted status among the nations of the world.
May the truth be known and we always stand for it.
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Your are so deluded its not even funny. The catholic church sponsored the civil war? Please, the civil war was cuased by regional politics. Politicians looking out for there section of the country but not the country as a whole. The catholic church had nothing to do with it. I have history on my side.
And again History > Propaganda
And im not geting involved in an arguement about the christian denominations becuase those are the christians problems. Plus the catholic church has been a proponet of peice for a long while now and thats more than i can say for protestants.
And again History > Propaganda
And im not geting involved in an arguement about the christian denominations becuase those are the christians problems. Plus the catholic church has been a proponet of peice for a long while now and thats more than i can say for protestants.
slightest bit of truth to back it up.
No actualy i have history, science and reason to back me up. All you have is religous propaganda. The vatican can hate what ever it wants it still isnt gonna change the fact that the civil war WAS NOT cuased by the vatican. Regional politics is what set the civil war off not a bunch of religous nutters with a grudge. Booth was connected with confederacy and the confederacy most likely was involved in the assassination of lincon. The Confederacy NOT the Vatican That is well known FACT. Plus "McLoughlin maintained that the majority of American Catholics were in favor of slavery and opposed to Lincoln" is all not a valid reason. Ever heard of the southern baptist church? They split becuase of thereveiws on slavery so it wasny just the catholics who opposed lincon and and the end of slavery.
No actualy i have history, science and reason to back me up. All you have is religous propaganda. The vatican can hate what ever it wants it still isnt gonna change the fact that the civil war WAS NOT cuased by the vatican. Regional politics is what set the civil war off not a bunch of religous nutters with a grudge. Booth was connected with confederacy and the confederacy most likely was involved in the assassination of lincon. The Confederacy NOT the Vatican That is well known FACT. Plus "McLoughlin maintained that the majority of American Catholics were in favor of slavery and opposed to Lincoln" is all not a valid reason. Ever heard of the southern baptist church? They split becuase of thereveiws on slavery so it wasny just the catholics who opposed lincon and and the end of slavery.
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Foolish unbelievers...
You are all mistaken.
They found no "crater"...
Approximate location of lost city:
...Probable Latitude 76° 15’, Longitude 113° 10’ E.
At the Mountains of Madness - H. P. Lovecraft
Approximate location of "crater"
Ancient killer crater found under Antarctic ice
"Tekeli-li! Tekeli-li!"
Foolish unbelievers...
You are all mistaken.
They found no "crater"...
Approximate location of lost city:
...Probable Latitude 76° 15’, Longitude 113° 10’ E.
At the Mountains of Madness - H. P. Lovecraft
Approximate location of "crater"
Ancient killer crater found under Antarctic ice
"Tekeli-li! Tekeli-li!"
sigh.. You dont like to listen do you? It was all about politics. Not Religon, not power but politics. Lincoln was shot becuase the south was losing the war and the confederacy thought that if they killed him and the rest of his adminastration the confederacy still had a chance. (Yes there were attacks on the members of his administation all failed except Lincolns) It was set up by the confederacy. All southerners hated lincoln and the north it wasnt just like the catholics that hated him EVERYONE did.
5,000 years from now, they are going to find Visitor with bullshit still in his mouth from freezing so fast.
So say'th the prophet Spidergoat.
So say'th the prophet Spidergoat.
spidergoat said:
There are hordes of artifacts.
Technology that still doesn't exist today, existed before the flood.
They had lifespans of over 900 years.
Consider how today with our short lifespans we have to work on advancing science standing upon the shoulders of the ones that came before us.
Things would happen much faster with a lifespan of ten times ours.
Ancient cities in both Mexico and The Indus Valley region have been unearthed that were laid out in a perfect grid with modern plumbing that rivals anything we have today.
There is plenty of evidence that the world had highly advanced cultures and science before the antediluvian destruction.
Then theres that infamous mammoth with fern leaves frozen in its mouth....
We unearthed one the other day about 30 ft. down while digging an underpass.
This one was still in its bathing suit.
Einstein was not an atheist.
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if such a great civilisation existed, and you claim that this flood was great enough to cause their extinction, then where did we come from? if such a great civilisation was wiped out by it, then how do ypou explain our surivival, or all the other species currently alive on earth?
vslayer said:
The Ark was designed by prophetic revelation to withstand the destruction and carry the survivors, both man and animal.
Roughly the size of a present day aircraft carrier, but made like a submarine out of Gopher wood...(like balsa, a porous type wood trapping small air pockets in the grain) and without any opening pitched within and without with tar to seal in the air that exists in the porous grain of the wood.
It was made to float even upside down.
The rest did not prepare, because they didn't believe there was enough water up there to flood the Earth......they didn't see the axis tilt that was coming to destabilize the atmosphere and condense all the water vapor at once.
Until that time the Earth was such a paradise it had never even rained once.
The ground was watered by condensation at night by the tremendous amount of water that was held as vapor in the perfectly balanced saturated atmosphere.
No civilization even us today could survive that kind of cataclysm, first nuclear, then global tilt, then tidal waves, massive storms and the flood raising water levels above the highest mountains on Earth for one year.
It was an extermination.
Several baghdad batteries are still inferior to a single AA cell. Are you saying they mastered doomsday-nukes but couldn't make a simple chemical battery?TheVisitor said:
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Changed your mind again Visitor (or are you gonna go back and delete that post like you did the one where you claimed I'd misquoted the bible?) Please try to stay consistent in your story, otherwise we won't take you seriously.
So humans had different lungs at that time to avoid drowning from all the water in the atmosphere?
It was a fantasy....