Those who defend the church for their actions are as guilty as the perpetrators who commit the crime. What exactly are you doing about it?
Oh yes, defending them.
Deliver Us from Evil
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Those who defend the church for their actions are as guilty as the perpetrators who commit the crime. What exactly are you doing about it?
Oh yes, defending them.
Learned Hand
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Sure it makes sense, assuming that your not a pure existentialist isolating yourself in a cage. Society breeds what it breeds, and an existential society must take responsibility for its own doings (whatsoever they may be) that allow the damn "buggers" to spread their pain, sin, and crime.
How am i defending these abusers? I stated right from the very beginning that there should be no second chances for pedophiles, the differece is i am not on a witch hunt and do not exhibit some misguided agenda.
I also said that if you look at BELLS link with the pictures eliminate the priests victims and show images of other sexually abused children from all walks of life how far would that line stretch?
Why dont you look at this and then tell me what the problem is.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=3755182
There are levels of abuse and the particular case highlighted in the link is low on victimization scale, nevertheless the article shows much wider spread of abuse than was involved in this priest scandal but either way those priests should not see the light of day. But i do not make the laws and you can thank the bleeding hearst who cannot see that there is no rehabilitating this disease.
This guy was a repeat offender and finally took the life of an innocent child:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Couey
But then it is too late. Just recently there was a case of a 3yo child molested by a person who had no outward signs at all and had normal relations with adult women. We need to find out why these people are different and what drives them. This can only be done through medical research.
You are the one who is blinded by animosity and cannot see that these hanful of priests came right out of the same exact society and they are not any different from the other pedophiles. My first or second post in this thread alluded to the fact that we can expect a small number of people to be afflicted with this defect, my human sexuality thread was meant to study this aspect of human behavior because i will tell you that if we do not look at this from a scientific perspective we will never change it.
I am not here to argue because we are all on the same page.
Yet, the problem of buggery runs rampant through your cult and you sit there defending it. You aren't taking any responsibility, so the cult needs to be shut down, immediately.
Yet, you happily defend and are a card carrying member of the cult that breeds these pedophiles. You treat this like it's some 'one-off' instance, while pedophiles run rampant throughout the cult.
Yes, there is a difference between your cult and society, your cult protects and harbors pedophiles.
It will never change, until your cult is completely eradicated.
No, we're not on the same page, I don't belong to, defend or worship a cult that breeds and harbors pedophiles.
I meant on the same page with normal people, not necessarily you or at least you are not showing that you would be included. Why dont you tell me how you came to assume that i am a 'card carrying member of the cult that breeds these pedophiles'. And we dont even know what the hell you are, if you are male or female. I am guessing female.
So are you dummy. Why dont you educate your self on the scope and magnitude of the problem then come back here and discuss it rationally, if you have the capacity to do so.
A cult of child molesters, and what maybe 99.99999999999% are NOT priests. Dont get tough with me behind your computer Q, i may joke arund alot here but dont think that gives you the right to abuse me.
Did you even know that?
Do you even care?
http://www.aacap.org/cs/root/facts_for_families/child_sexual_abuse
I dont know what your problem is but i think it may just be common narcissism.
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Maybe you should spend more time thinking and less time wondering. What do you do when you 'wonder'?
http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/PUBLICATIONS/factsheet/fsabuse1.htm
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Breeds pedophiles? How? In a petridish? Rampant through the cult? Do you suppose there could be a correlation between a profession that requires sexual celibacy and the ratio of attraction of straight adult males who might be likely to be found in such profession? I bet you would also find a higher ratio of homosexuals (closeted) in such professions as well, since they would not need to explain their lack of relationship with a female. Does this mean the Church breeds homosexuals?
I agree with you about harboring them though (the pedophiles, not the homosexuals). That is wrong.
S.A.M,
Homosexuals may seek the priesthood as protection from a cold cruel society, i can agree with you there.
Some cultures grown men marry 12 year olds, some would view this as harboring.
You're a Catholic, aren't you? You're doing nothing about these crimes other than defending your cult?
That won't be possible with you, as you will simply continue to defend your cult, regardless of the magnitude of the problem.
No, THAT is a joke.
Did you even know that?
The problem is cults that harbor pedophiles and the people who follow and worship the cult. Ring any bells?
So, if I respond to your questions, are you later going to accuse me of following you around?
NONE. To what extent where they harbored? When this, in relation to the subject, happens to anyone it is a serious crime and i dont agree with merciful justice for them and knowledge of a crime and not saying anything is a serious offense. I am sure the few involved were prosecuted. And there are lots of forms of abuse with millions of children all over the world living through it every night, what is being done for them? not enough. i dont know what enough is when they sacrifice their lives for something, something they had no control over. You may think i am taking this personally and i guess i am but not for the reasons you think. [forget that part]
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You can follow me around anytime, peachums.
Now answer the question.
No thanks. You've already lied about it. I won't be taking the bait.