Deities do or do not exist?
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I don't think so, but then I would have said that there couldn't be an athiest who thought a deity might or did exist, but according to the poll, there are!
I don't disagree. I'm just saying it is reasonable to assume that there could be a person there because people in general exist. But we haven't established there is any such class as gods at all.
I feel that while the theist is wrong, it's implied he is still within the realm of possibility. There are in fact fingers and there is a number of them up. To be more accurate his answer should be "Nerg."
Like modern times are a harbor of safety, purity and well-being for everyone.
How many people lose their jobs every day, with little or no chance to find employment again?
How affordable and available is medical care?
How much oil and other resources are there left?
Need I remind you of these things?
Really? If you are a robot perhaps.
Why would certainty be absurd?
Enmos
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Don't you think the atheist knows that ?
The theist is trying to convince the atheist of something neither can possibly know.
Does this mean that the atheist believes that the number of fingers the other dude is holding up is not three ? No!
The atheist simply does not believe the theist's claim, that the other dude is holding up three fingers, because the theist cannot possibly know.
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Enmos
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signal,
Whichever way you cut it - modern life is overwhelming luxurious and safer than that of thousands of years ago.
Being rational, logical, and fair does not eliminate or reduce our humanity, emotions, and feelings, and in no way makes us robots.
It is good that we can live long enough to experience these things. In stone age times you would be very lucky to live beyond the age of 20 and where disease was rampant and hygeine non-existent.
Whichever way you cut it - modern life is overwhelming luxurious and safer than that of thousands of years ago.
So why would you prefer the alternatives; biases, discriminations, injustice, and illogic?
Being rational, logical, and fair does not eliminate or reduce our humanity, emotions, and feelings, and in no way makes us robots.
Enmos
Valued Senior Member
That's because they do not believe that deities do not exist.
The thing is, you can see how it is possible, because people do
live their lives as theists.
How can you live your actual day to day life as an agnostic?
Outside of debate, and discussion, how does agnosticism manifest itself
in action?
jan.
and it doesnt??
your Islam fanatics would love to KILL all of us if you could.
as your HATRED shows in every post you make
projecting much SAM?
isnt it YOU who is tormented by atheists and their logic,reason.
no they dont believe,
we KNOW god doesnt exist,its too contradictory to be real
as far as all the other gods go,
who knows,do you think they exist?
www.godchecker.com
Enmos
Valued Senior Member
Sam, could you comment on my explanation of that picture I posted (post 186) ?
Thanks
Who is holding up the fingers?
Enmos
Valued Senior Member
? That doesn't matter, it's an analogy.
There is no such thing as an agnostic theist. An agnostic is simply one who claims that the existence of God is unknowable. It is impossible for an agnostic to be a theist. One who claims that God exists. If you claim that the existence of God is unknowable, you cannot claim that God exists.
To claim that an agnostic theists is one who claims God exists, but then claims there is no evidence for their claim has no bearing on actual terminology.
To claim that an agnostic theists is one who claims God exists, but then claims there is no evidence for their claim has no bearing on actual terminology.
Why would that be good?
Killed by a bear at the age of 20 back then, or killed by a gang at the age of 20 or 50 nowadays - what's the difference?
It's not clear how this is so.
Because "biases, discriminations, injustice, and illogic" as you call them actually give a chance to people finding true happiness.
Sticking to "rationality", "logic", "impartiality" eventually makes decision-making and acting impossible.
How does it not do so?
Truth.