Death to Apostates (?)
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As a communist, Sam has a point here: yes, Stalin killed 20 million people (Or more probably a lot more). True. This is a huge failing of my system; and, as a communist, I understand that. Now, whether that's more or less people in "adjusted lives" is another question: could the religious holocausts of the past have been larger with access to industrialisation? Certainly. Bigger than Stalin's? Possibly. But on the absolute scale, political atheism has done more damage.
That does not, however mean that religious politics are any better. They haven't yet been given their chance at industrialized murder, unless one includes the Jewish Holocaust, the Armenian Holocaust and possibly the invasion of Bangladesh.
That does not, however mean that religious politics are any better. They haven't yet been given their chance at industrialized murder, unless one includes the Jewish Holocaust, the Armenian Holocaust and possibly the invasion of Bangladesh.
So Russia in the 1930s was the most advanced industrialised country? What about Italy (about 800,000) China (50 million)? Cambodia (2000000 )?
In fact, apart from the partition problems of Pakistan its mostly an atheist list
61,911,000 Murdered: The Soviet Gulag State
35,236,000 Murdered: The Communist Chinese Ant Hill
20,946,000 Murdered: The Nazi Genocide State
10,214,000 Murdered: The Depraved Nationalist Regime
5,964,000 Murdered: Japan's Savage Military
2,035,000 Murdered: The Khmer Rouge Hell State
1,883,000 Murdered: Turkey's Genocidal Purges
1,670,000 Murdered: The Vietnamese War State
1,585,000 Murdered: Poland's Ethnic Cleansing
1,503,000 Murdered: The Pakistani Cutthroat State
1,072,000 Murdered: Tito's Slaughterhouse
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE1.HTM
In fact, apart from the partition problems of Pakistan its mostly an atheist list
61,911,000 Murdered: The Soviet Gulag State
35,236,000 Murdered: The Communist Chinese Ant Hill
20,946,000 Murdered: The Nazi Genocide State
10,214,000 Murdered: The Depraved Nationalist Regime
5,964,000 Murdered: Japan's Savage Military
2,035,000 Murdered: The Khmer Rouge Hell State
1,883,000 Murdered: Turkey's Genocidal Purges
1,670,000 Murdered: The Vietnamese War State
1,585,000 Murdered: Poland's Ethnic Cleansing
1,503,000 Murdered: The Pakistani Cutthroat State
1,072,000 Murdered: Tito's Slaughterhouse
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE1.HTM
Bells
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You're missing one vital point. Stalin did not kill 20 million people because he was an atheist and they, the victims, may or may not have been theists.
Bells
Staff member
The Armenian genocide was not "atheist". Nor was the Nazi genocide of the Jews.. Hitler was not an atheist but a believer in God.
Yes, that is the cult of Christianity, which you are a cult member.
After reading your posts, it's clear you don't know much about your own religion other than what's been included in your indoctrination. Most Christians are in the same boat as you.
That would be the King James Version. The New Testament (and Christian beliefs) describes hell as the place in which one suffers the consequences of sin and IS eternal.
See Gehenna: 1 Kings 11:7, and 2 Kings 23:10
That is part and parcel with the Abrahamic religions, control of the masses, made by men.
The Abrahamic god can be summed up thusly:
"a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sado-masochistic, capriciously malevolent bully".
The risen jesus was a trick. The disciples stuffed yeast up his arse. The heat of the sun did the rest.
How convenient that it is not for us to know...
Didn't Jesus/ god know the earth has no end ?
Why don't you get together with Adstar and have a chat about sin , the Lake of Fire and other such topics. I'm sure you'll get on like a house (or should that be Lake ) of fire.
That's tangential, and proves your desperation Sam.
Stop beating the dead horse. Stalin did not kill anybody in the name of atheism.
Keep bleating on about it shows how few angles you have. Why you feel the need to try and prove something against atheism speak volumes however. It's the usual 'with us or against us' hate filled bile associated with religion.
Keep it up Sam, you are a glowing example of how religion poisons a mind.
Do you know that for sure?
And even if he did, what does that have to do with you and your
atheism, why seem compelled to defend it?
Jan.
Where have you been ? Stalin was an evil dictator who killed millions for political reasons. He was not interested in his victims' religious beliefs, if any.There is not a scrap of evidence to suggest otherwise.
Sam brings this up repeatedly ( see some of her other posts ) in a futile attempt to discredit atheism.
What evidence is there to suggest that he didn't kill people because of his atheism, or that his motives were purely political?
Jan.
Medicine*Woman,
How do you know what was going off in his head?
He could have just got the hump, and thought, f--k it, them theist mother f-----s, are gonna know who is god. How do you know that wasn't the case, expecially if, as you say, he was insane?
Is that a trick question?
But yet you can imagine someone killing a bunch of people, because there is a god?
Jan.
How do you know what was going off in his head?
He could have just got the hump, and thought, f--k it, them theist mother f-----s, are gonna know who is god. How do you know that wasn't the case, expecially if, as you say, he was insane?
Is that a trick question?
But yet you can imagine someone killing a bunch of people, because there is a god?
Jan.
As Stalin was not a theist, he would kill for nonreligious reasons. Which he did. To an extent unsurpassed in modern times.
It's much better to be beheaded for religious reasons.