You'r selling snake oil... Sir
In my heaven... I would never be bored/unhappy/in pain/republican... etc... unless that's what I chose.!!!
Dear Believers, prove your god or gods is/aren't just fiction(s).
- Thread starter Gawdzilla Sama
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In my heaven... I would never be bored/unhappy/in pain/republican... etc... unless that's what I chose.!!!
Gawdzilla Sama
Valued Senior Member
The War in Heaven was fought by the forces of good vs. the forces of evil. Which was which was determined after the war. The winner declared himself "GOD" and declared the loser "SATAN".
I'm sure some devout believer can tell me which was which BEFORE the war. "The winner wrote the history."
So, you believers could be worshipping Satan right now. Be fun to hang around and watch.
I'm sure some devout believer can tell me which was which BEFORE the war. "The winner wrote the history."
So, you believers could be worshipping Satan right now. Be fun to hang around and watch.
Gawdzilla Sama
Valued Senior Member
How would you enforce that? You God? You tell God what He should allow you to do?You'r selling snake oil... Sir
In my heaven... I would never be bored/unhappy/in pain/republican... etc... unless that's what I chose.!!!
Seriously, the only way people can remain believers is if they adamantly refuse to think.
Yes Yes all good points... but no gods;;; my heaven would be the same as everybodys heaven in that we all get to choose what suits us... from eternal misery to eternal happyness an ever thang inbetween... an ther would be zero "enforcement" needed or necessary.!!!
An yes... even believers will be included... LOL
Gawdzilla Sama
Valued Senior Member
Your heaven is exactly as valid as any other heaven.
That valid at the very least... especially since it will not include lies an a need to believe in Bull Sht... an coming you'r way at the speed of AI advancements
Trek
Registered Senior Member
This post wasn’t against Darwinism.
It was against the claim of magic.
I think you falsely banned me
Trek:
Welcome back.
I already explain most of this back in post #588, above. Perhaps you haven't caught up with that yet.
Since you have decided to make this an issue, I publish the warning I gave you here. Readers can judge for themselves whether I warned you for illegitimate reasons. Here's the text of the explanatory message you were sent:
I suggest that it might be more productive for you to come to terms with your ban, which is now in the past, and try to discuss the thread topic. I posted an interesting reply to the vaguely on-topic stuff you wrote. Maybe you'd like to reply to that? It's post number 587, which I assume you also haven't read yet, given that you missed 588.
Welcome back.
Either way, it's off topic for this thread.
I didn't ban you. I issued you with an official warning. You were banned because you have accumulated a number of previous warnings and you had enough active warning points to trigger an automatic temporary ban. I also let you off with a friendly warning on another matter, because I'm a nice guy and issuing you with more points would have extended your ban time unreasonably, in my judgment.
I already explain most of this back in post #588, above. Perhaps you haven't caught up with that yet.
Since you have decided to make this an issue, I publish the warning I gave you here. Readers can judge for themselves whether I warned you for illegitimate reasons. Here's the text of the explanatory message you were sent:
The following message was also appended to the reported post:
If you want to discuss this further, please send me a message in the warning discussion thread. Or, if you prefer to make a public spectacle of yourself, feel free to start a thread in Site Feedback or Open Government.
I suggest that it might be more productive for you to come to terms with your ban, which is now in the past, and try to discuss the thread topic. I posted an interesting reply to the vaguely on-topic stuff you wrote. Maybe you'd like to reply to that? It's post number 587, which I assume you also haven't read yet, given that you missed 588.
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foghorn
Valued Senior Member
Sounds like bactartia, oblivious yet 'alive'.
In my plan of heaven you could choose to be Bactria... or human... an judge for you'rself if thers any difference
DaveC426913
Valued Senior Member
Can I choose to be God?In my plan of heaven you could choose to be Bactria... or human... an judge for you'rself if thers any difference
Yes Yes... a very popular choice I might add.!!!
Gawdzilla Sama
Valued Senior Member
As good as any other method of finding a god.
foghorn
Valued Senior Member
Not for a bacterium. It wouldn't even be aware of being in heaven, let alone being aware of a choice to be something else.
If we go with your idea, that everthing gets a choice to be something else, that means the bible God could have at one time been a bacterium that chose to be a god.
Gawdzilla Sama
Valued Senior Member
That would have isolated the source of the religious infection.
Not for a bacterium. It wouldn't even be aware of being in heaven, let alone being aware of a choice to be something else.
If we go with your idea, that everthing gets a choice to be something else, that means the bible God could have at one time been a bacterium that chose to be a god.
In my plan of heaven... you'r plan of action could be to choose to become bacterium an then back to you'r human self.!!!
As a willin participant in my plan of heaven all thangs are possible to you;;; you could even be a hell-fire Holey roller on a street corner if that's you'r choice.!!!
DaveC426913
Valued Senior Member
How? A bacterium doesn't have the capacity to decide to be human. You'd be stuck.
You'd have to set up an expiration timer - a dead man switch. "I would like to be a bacterium for one day and then automatically revert back to my human form."
Could I be Lucifer? Could I torture all other humans in a molten lake of fire? Or only the humans whose idea of heaven is to be tortured in a molten lake of fire?
Sure.!!!
Each individual programs the scenario they desire… an ther woud be no tricks or gotchas… only outcomes that you woud actually desire.!!!
Yes… you coud choose to be Lucifer… an you woud preset the program to all of you’r desired parameters… which coud certainly include torture of all humans in a lake of fire.!!!
Now understan this:::
All these screamin humans in you’r lake of fire are merely a part of the program you wrote… an its totally up to you if you want that scenario to seem % 100 realistic to you.!!!
Hell… some people will even choose more pleasant thangs that include family/other loved ones.!!!
Pinball1970
Valued Senior Member
Nope, you kept repeating the same creationist nonsense and were rightly reported.
(Cell from goo or some other idiotic garbage)
You also had the audacity to claim that "the exquisite design of the cell," was evidence of a god.
Seriously? Is your memory that short or are you just a liar?
I asked you five? Six times to tell me which image was a cell (designed according to you) and salt crystals on another thread.
Not only did you fail to get the correct answer you did not even ATTEMPT to answer.
You promptly ran away when pressed.
Do you expect anyone on here to take you seriously after that?
DaveC426913
Valued Senior Member
Hm. so it's an illusion. I can't actually torture real people; I only have a simulation of doing so.
That sort of sucks the oompf out of eternal afterlife, if it's just an illusion.
Which has some wider implications - as you go on to mention:
Sure, but they're a simalcrum of my loved ones. It's an illusion, a simulation, a hallucination.
I'm not actually reunited with my dead wife, or first teenage girlfriend; I am just reunited with a simulation of them.
I wonder how soon most people would get tired of interacting with copied of real people.