Gawdzilla Sama
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Believers are taught to duck and dodge to avoid having to think about doctrine, wouldn't want to doubt GOD, now would we?
Dear Believers, prove your god or gods is/aren't just fiction(s).
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DaveC426913
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My computer is tracking my posting history again... 
Trek
Registered Senior Member
So you believe in God?
Sorry I thought you didn’t
Gawdzilla Sama
Valued Senior Member
"there is a god" would be one.
Pinball1970
Valued Senior Member
There is a mixture on here. Cultural Christians, theists such as yourself, Gawdzilla Dave and I are atheists. I am not sure about Billvon, agnostic? Just a guess.
Also Atheism means “lack of belief” In a god/s.
So, questions we get, “Do you think there is a god out there? No.
“Could there be a god out there?” Yes.
“Then if there could be one why do you not think there is one?” Because there has never been any evidence to suggest there is one.
In terms of the Biblical god? That is a different matter and I personally (because this is all personal views at the end of the day) claim that god, YHWH and Jesus are false.
Trek
Registered Senior Member
If you are without a belief in God
You are an atheist.
If you lack a belief in God
You are an atheist.
If don’t believe in God
You are an atheist.
If you don’t believe I God, but you think there is a possibility that there could be a God.
You are an atheist.
If you don’t believe in God be cscause you think God cannot be known
You are an atheist.
What is God, in that opinion, that leads such a person to conclude there is no evidence?
If you’re going to put that out there, please give a description of what God is, then that way it can be understood why you have come to that conclusion
Gawdzilla Sama
Valued Senior Member
"God is how we keep from panicking when it's scary." O mani padme hum. etc.
DaveC426913
Valued Senior Member
I guess as long as we're lumping everyone under one label...
If you believe in God, you are a fire-and-brimstone-touting whackadoodle Bible-thumper.
You're OK if we refer to you as that from now on, yes? Good, good.
DaveC426913
Valued Senior Member
Still got it backwards. Still too chicken to have the courage of your convictions.
Pinball1970
Valued Senior Member
yes.
No. If the question is unknowable to me but I still think there is no god then I am am agnostic atheist.
You are asking me to demonstrate a negative, I have not seen any evidence of the supernatural, ever. No gods, goddesses, ghosts or hint of a devil heaven or hell
Pinball1970
Valued Senior Member
yes.
No. If the question is unknowable to me but I still think there is no god then I am an agnostic atheist.
You are asking me to demonstrate a negative, I have not seen any evidence of the supernatural, ever. No gods, goddesses, ghosts or hint of a devil heaven or hell
Trek
Registered Senior Member
atheist -
a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.
"he is a committed atheist"
Ok…
Really…
This is your response.
Jim Jones the atheist who lead that death cult in the Guyana preached fire and brimstone, as does a plethora of preachers who do not believe in God
It will just be another diversion tactic.
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Trek
Registered Senior Member
But still an atheist. Yes?
I am aware of that.
But how do you know you have not seen any evidence of God?
Trek
Registered Senior Member
Why do you always refrain from answering real questions?
What are you afraid of?
DaveC426913
Valued Senior Member
Yup. you're all the same, right Bible-thumper?
The diversion tactic is yours. You try to deflect actual dialogue by using labels and attacking the labels.
That's dishonest.
Might I suggest, if you want to be taken seriously, you drop the labels and address the arguments?
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DaveC426913
Valued Senior Member
You look foolish continuing to hammer on this entirely backwards argument.
You have been asked to provide evidence for the objective existence of God (see thread title). It is you who are in the position of answering the questions put to you, and you are simply dodging. You lack the courage of your convictions.
And it is abundantly clear, after several times around, that you will not be demonstrating that god exists outside your own head.
And that's fine. We agree on that.
DaveC426913
Valued Senior Member
For the zillionth time, feel free to enlighten us. Point to this evidence and say "You saw this thing but did not think it was evidence of God."
But you won't.
Trek
Registered Senior Member
What do we do that makes us all the same?
Last I heard a theist was somebody who believes in God. Not read or thump the bible
That is a false claim.
An atheist is a person who does not believe in God. Put another way… if you lack, or are without, or point blank refuse to, believe in a God, You are atheist. You agreed with me in that.
So how am I attacking anyone? Or being dishonest. Serious questions