Danish Cartoon backlash, there embassy is blown up in pakistan!!!!!!!!!!!!

[S.A.M.]

Let assume the Danish capture the people that bomb their embassy, is it wrong for Denmark to punish these people?

Of course not, for the same reason that people living in occupied Afghanistan (or refugees from the war) are perfectly within their rights to kill any Danes.

But what if they find those people who bombed the embassy are victims or relatives of victims who suffered bombing in Afghanistan or are fighting their cause? Then, is it right to punish these people?

 

[ElectricFetus]

Of course not, for the same reason that people living in occupied Afghanistan (or refugees from the war) are perfectly within their rights to kill any Danes.

Any Danes, So a Danish Tourist? So a Danish clerical worker in a embassy? So a Danish Child?!?!

But what if they find those people who bombed the embassy are victims or relatives of victims who suffered bombing in Afghanistan or are fighting their cause? Then, is it right to punish these people?

Yes! Vengeance is not right, not in todays society, an "eye for an eye" would leave us all blind! Vengence killing only leads to more killings back and forth and you end up with Israel and Palistine to today.

 

[S.A.M.]

Any Danes, So a Danish Tourist? So a Danish clerical worker in a embassy? So a Danish Child?!?!

War sucks, does it not? But I do not think having the werewithal to kill people from a distance makes a person less culpable. But yeah, if your soldiers are occupying a country, you've declared war against it. You are bombing and killing their citizens. You started it. So why are you complaining? Because they don't have advanced technology to do it the way you do it? How does being an advanced killer capable of killing more people needlessly, make you LESS culpable?

Yes! Vengeance is not right, not in todays society, an "eye for an eye" would leave us all blind! Vengence killing only leads to more killings back and forth and you end up with Israel and Palistine to today.

So they should let them go? In the spirit of nonvengeance?

 

[ElectricFetus]

War sucks, does it not? But I do not think having the werewithal to kill people from a distance makes a person less culpable. But yeah, if your soldiers are occupying a country, you've declared war against it. You are bombing and killing their citizens. You started it. So why are you complaining? Because they don't have advanced technology to do it the way you do it? How does being an advanced killer capable of killing more people needlessly, make you LESS culpable?

So your saying it alright to kill innocents? Your retracting your earlier statement?

So they should let them go? In the spirit of nonvengeance?

There is a difference between vengeance and punishment, Killing their relatives is vengeance, killing them is punishment.

 

[S.A.M.]

So your saying it alright to kill children?

Its never alright to kill anyone, except in self defense. But seven years of occupation, with relentless bombing of civilian populations? I can see where the line might get fuzzy.

Killing their relatives is vengeance, killing them is punishment.

So who punishes the occupiers? The ones who are in their country? Or do you suggest they get in a plane and ...oops tried that already too, huh?

 

[ElectricFetus]

Its never alright to kill anyone, except in self defense. But seven years of occupation, with relentless bombing of civilian populations? I can see where the line might get fuzzy.

Children is not a near any fuzzy line.

So who punishes the occupiers? The ones who are in their country?

You got it, kill their soldiers, don't kill one of their civilians.

 

[S.A.M.]

You got it, kill their soldiers, don't kill one of their civilians.

And the bombers? Throwing bombs and not doing body counts? Killing mostly civilians? When they stop killing civilians, they have a right to ask that of the ones they attack, invade and occupy, don't you think?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...hs=p5f&q=+afghan+civilians+killed&btnG=Search

 

[ElectricFetus]

And the bombers? Throwing bombs and not doing body counts? Killing mostly civilians? When they stop killing civilians, they have a right to ask that of the ones they attack, invade and occupy, don't you think?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...hs=p5f&q=+afghan+civilians+killed&btnG=Search

Does that make it any less wrong? Again this is Ad hominem tu quoque, this does not make it any less wrong for a terrorist to kill innocents. Now we both agree on the wrongness of western occupiers killing, but do you agree on the wrongness of terrorist killing innocents? yes/no?

 

[S.A.M.]

Does that make it any less wrong? Again this is Ad hominem tu quoque, this does not make it any less wrong for a terrorist to kill innocents. Now we both agree on the wrongness of western occupiers killing, but do you agree on the wrongness of terrorist killing innocents? yes/no?

I never hold victims to a higher moral standard than their abusers. When these terrorists are occupying your country and bombing you for seven years, I'll be right there speaking out against them.

 

[ElectricFetus]

I never hold victims to a higher moral standard than their abusers.

So then your saying "Muslim Terrorism is wrong"? About time.

When these terrorists are occupying your country and bombing you for seven years, I'll be right there speaking out against them.

But will you speak out against me if I kill these "occupiers" civilians? Will you speak out against Muslim terrorist who claim it their religious duty to kill innocents?

 

[Buffalo Roam]

So then your saying "Muslim Terrorism is wrong"? About time.

No, she is saying Kill them all let Allah sort them out.

But will you speak out against me if I kill these "occupiers" civilians? Will you speak out against Muslim terrorist who claim it their religious duty to kill innocents?

Hasn't yet.

 

[S.A.M.]

So then your saying "Muslim Terrorism is wrong"? About time.

Nope I'm saying that if your country's troops are in a foreign country killing civilians, they just declared hunting season on you.

But will you speak out against me if I kill these "occupiers" civilians? Will you speak out against Muslim terrorist who claim it their religious duty to kill innocents?

Like who? Who said that?

 

[ElectricFetus]

Nope I'm saying that if your country's troops are in a foreign country killing civilians, they just declared hunting season on you.

Like who? Who said that?

And you agree with them calling "hunting season on" me?

What now your going to deny when some any Muslim terrorist calls a jihad on the west? Who do you want me to quote, Bin laden, some palestinian in a video he or she made before blowing s/he self up?

 

[S.A.M.]

And you agree with them calling "hunting season on" me?

Your troops made the rules.:shrug:

What now your going to deny when some any Muslim terrorist calls a jihad on the west? Who do you want me to quote, Bin laden, some palestinian in a video he or she made before blowing s/he self up?

Lets see where they declare it their religious duty to kill innocents. Anything will do.

 

[ElectricFetus]

Your troops made the rules.:shrug:

I don't care who made the rules, that does not justify it, stop with the Ad Hominem Tu Quoques.

Lets see where they declare it their religious duty to kill innocents. Anything will do.

No matter what quote I give you your going to try to re-interpret it. Tell me what justifies them killing innocents?

 

[Buffalo Roam]

Your troops made the rules.:shrug:

Lets see where they declare it their religious duty to kill innocents. Anything will do.

No SAM Islam made the rules, heads Islam wins, Tail, the Infidel loses.

When Islam declares Jihad on the West we deserve it, isn't that the rules of Islam, it's our fault that you attack us.

 

[S.A.M.]

I don't care who made the rules, that does not justify it, stop with the Ad Hominem Tu Quoques.

I'm afraid it does, if you come at me with a machine gun, you can't expect me to hold a knife.

No matter what quote I give you your going to try to re-interpret it. Tell me what justifies them killing innocents?

Oh no you don't. You made a very clear and prejudicial statement against Muslims, even after I gave you literature that showed how baseless it is. Lets see the basis for your opinion.

 

[Buffalo Roam]

Oh no you don't. You made a very clear and prejudicial statement against Muslims, even after I gave you literature that showed how baseless it is. Lets see the basis for your opinion.

:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:

The daily reports from around the world, the dead innocents, from Islamic Suicide Bombers.

26 children to get one G.I.

 

[S.A.M.]

The same media that has been ignoring the Iraq war this year? That media?

 

[Buffalo Roam]

I'm afraid it does, if you come at me with a machine gun, you can't expect me to hold a knife.

Then don't bring a knife to a gun fight, and don't expect me not to use a machine gun when you come at me with explosives.