Danish Cartoon backlash, there embassy is blown up in pakistan!!!!!!!!!!!!

Makes you proud, doesn't it? The Iraqis have been "liberated"; now they too are enjoying the fruits of American intervention. They've done even better than Iran, no doubt due to the up close and personal experience of American liberation. The first suicide bomber in the region was a 15 year old Iranian boy, during the Iran-Iraq war, played both sides by the US.

:bravo:

Even the Afghanis and Pakistanis in their 5000 year history had not managed to reach this stage of liberation until they were so kindly guided into it by the seven year occupation following the kindly intervention of the mujahideen liberation.

Who's next? Where will your next turd fall?

Yes S.A.M.'s Motto,.....KALASTO...... Kill Them All Let Allah Sort Them Out,

26 children to get one G.I. yes S.A.M. kill them all let Allah sort them out.
 
Hmm facts vs opinions. Established bases and invisible enemies vs speculation. Take your pick. :shrug:

thats my point. the americans have everything obvious ,indians can easily have covert ops there. its what i dont know is what bothers me.
 
Lets be fair, not all Muslims are fanatics, but clearly the Muslim world has a higher rate of these lethal fundamentalist then any other major religion, even so these people are still in the minority even in Islam as if the majority of Muslim's were such most of them would have already killed them selves off in a massive religious war.
 
Buffalo:

This is Pakistan. Not Afghanistan. Guess where the US military base is located now?
 
Lets be fair, not all Muslims are fanatics, but clearly the Muslim world has a higher rate of these lethal fundamentalist then any other major religion, even so these people are still in the minority even in Islam as if the majority of Muslim's were such most of them would have already killed them selves off in a massive religious war.

Well how many of them denounce the lethal fundamentalist, S.A.M. don't, and a whole group of other's on this forum.

All they do is make excuses.
 
India a secret player in Afghanistan Jawayria Malik

Afghanistan has a long and tumultuous history of outside powers using its rugged terrain as a chessboard for the ‘Great Game’. This ‘Great Game’ has been revisited in Afghanistan and one of the chasing players this time is India. In recent years, Indian increased diplomatic presence and enhanced economic assistance to Afghanistan has not only threatened the security of Pakistan but also played an effective role in jeopardising the Pak-Afghan cooperation to contain the flow of insurgency in Afghanistan.

There is no dearth of hint that India is good times friend of Afghanistan. She welcomed the communist Saur Revolution in Kabul in 1978 and sided with former Soviet Union and is equally responsible for the destruction of Afghanistan. Indian influence which started trailing in 1979 was entirely lost in Afghanistan in 1992 and during Taliban rule. The fall of Taliban regime and the return of Northern Alliance as a dominant partner in present government in Afghanistan provided India another opportunity to regain the lost influence in the country. Since then she is trying to dominate Afghanistan. In her bid to get a firm and lasting foothold in post-Taliban era, she is leaving no stone unturned to perpetuate her presence there. Here the point to ponder is: why Indians are so desperate to have cordial relations with Afghanistan?

It goes without saying that India has no legitimate role in Afghanistan but the dream to confront Pakistan. She is making all-out efforts, to prevent Pakistan from having influence in Afghanistan, by aggravating anti*Pakistan sentiments among Afghan people. Apparently, Indian intention could be economic gains but real objective remains destabilising Pakistan.


http://rupeenews.com/2008/01/27/india-a-secret-player-in-afghanistan-jawayria-malik-bases-lashkargarh-qushila-jadidkhahakhassan-killies/
 
Anyone with sense would have supported the Soviet Union over the US. Under the Soviets, the Afghanis were running hippy camps. Under the Americans they are running terrorist training camps; guess who was arming the fundamentalist insurgents at that time?
 
Religions often time drive their believers to do stupid things. When you believe in a religion that teaches that all other religions are wrong and that they are inherently "evil" and that their adherents are "unworthy", then the next logical step is violence. Its unbelievable that people are still blinded by such nonsense.

~String

I know all this... I'm wondering though, what was the cartoon??? Anyone have a link to it? and/or a translation of it?
 
Buffalo:

This is Pakistan. Not Afghanistan. Guess where the US military base is located now?


Well I guess I made a small error, but it was still Moslems killing Moslems,
and;

According to Yousaf Mohammad, the Pakistan Inter-Services Intelligence officer, the incident "could quickly get out of hand, or lead to international confrontation".[15] The fact of uprising was concealed by both Pakistan and USSR governments for many years until the dissolution of the USSR. Six names of uprising participants were given to Alexander Rutskoy committee by Shahryar Khan, the deputy of Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Pakistan, only in 1992.

Russia and the Pakistani's not the U.S.

But still in your eyes KALASTO
 
The POWs were Russians. The captors were the mujahideen, which everyone and their nanny state knows was trained and supported by the Americans. What are you blathering?

What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet Union? Some stirred-up Muslims or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the Cold War?

-- Former National Security Advisor to President Carter Zbignew Brzezinski on the topic of training the mujahideen during the Soviet/Afghan war.

http://gseweb.harvard.edu/~t656_web..._2004/Boggs_Jonathan_Afghanistan_blowback.htm
 
Well how many of them denounce the lethal fundamentalist, S.A.M. don't, and a whole group of other's on this forum.

All they do is make excuses.

This is normal patriotic protectionism, most people confronted with factual evidence of problems with people they identify with will defend it on some ground or another, this does not mean they advocate it. There are Muslims who do openly admit that the Muslim world has significant problems of extremism, fundamentalism and general hate and intolerance, I'm sure even SAM would admit it if ask correctly.
 
This is normal patriotic protectionism, most people confronted with factual evidence of problems with people they identify with will defend it on some ground or another, this does not mean they advocate it. There are Muslims who do openly admit that the Muslim world has significant problems of extremism, fundamentalism and general hate and intolerance, I'm sure even SAM would admit it if ask correctly.

Do any of the Muslims who "admit this" live under occupation? As I've said several times before, many Indians were hanged as terrorists by the British. Ask any Indian today if they consider them as terrorists.

Ask any American if he thinks George Washington or any of the Americans who butchered the native Americans are terrorists.
 
Anyone with sense would have supported the Soviet Union over the US. Under the Soviets, the Afghanis were running hippy camps. Under the Americans they are running terrorist training camps; guess who was arming the fundamentalist insurgents at that time?


selective reading?

In her bid to get a firm and lasting foothold in post-Taliban era, she is leaving no stone unturned to perpetuate her presence there. Here the point to ponder is: why Indians are so desperate to have cordial relations with Afghanistan?


maybe they want to get rid of the americans? how? terrorists.
 
No, I just never cared enough. I try to avoid getting into the west vs. Islam controversy. But now I just genuinely want to see the cartoon to see what it is all about.

Its about drawing the Prophet as a terrorist.

selective reading?

In her bid to get a firm and lasting foothold in post-Taliban era, she is leaving no stone unturned to perpetuate her presence there. Here the point to ponder is: why Indians are so desperate to have cordial relations with Afghanistan?


maybe they want to get rid of the americans? how? terrorists.

Geez Louise. India has excellent relations with the US. :crazy:

And terrorists attract Americans like flies, they don't repel them. One sure way to get an Americans attention is to yell, terrorist!!. Try it. :D
 
Do any of the Muslims who "admit this" live under occupation? As I've said several times before, many Indians were hanged as terrorists by the British. Ask any Indian today if they consider them as terrorists.

Ask any American if he thinks George Washington or any of the Americans who butchered the native Americans are terrorists.

So what are you saying that Muslims honestly believe what they do is alright?
 
Anyone with sense would have supported the Soviet Union over the US. Under the Soviets, the Afghanis were running hippy camps. Under the Americans they are running terrorist training camps; guess who was arming the fundamentalist insurgents at that time?

No Sam. The Russians were very, very bad to Afghani people. They burned down trees and crops, they rapes women with impunity, kidnapped young children, they captured all young men in villages and put them to a firing squad, and they fired indiscriminantly at civilians in marketplaces. Not to mention the suppression of Islam in Afghanistan.

The Americans aren't much different, however, nowadays. All these things still go on under new foreign occupiers. Afghanistan has always been under occupation or at a state of war with invaders for the past 100 years. It's very unfortunate for the people living there.

This is normal patriotic protectionism, most people confronted with factual evidence of problems with people they identify with will defend it on some ground or another, this does not mean they advocate it. There are Muslims who do openly admit that the Muslim world has significant problems of extremism, fundamentalism and general hate and intolerance, I'm sure even SAM would admit it if ask correctly.

Oppression, suppression, sanctions, and occupation results in many negative side effects. Why is this a surprise?

still Moslems killing Moslems,

Do you support Muslims killing other Muslims? This is what it seems like from your post.

Aren't the Iraqis and Afghanis you are attempting to liberate Muslims as well?

If you have no respect for their religion and culture, how can you possibly be fair and just to them?
 
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