Xelasnave.1947
Valued Senior Member
No we don't talk.
My daughter called me this morning and said a friend of hers wants to meet me and later I find a friend request...I don't know what to do.
Alex
Corona Virus 2019-nCoV
- Thread starter Quantum Quack
- Start date
My daughter called me this morning and said a friend of hers wants to meet me and later I find a friend request...I don't know what to do.
Alex
This man was on the radio the other day.He is a gas character and I had to laugh when he said (you know ,talking about the present lockdown going on) that he now lived on his own and that he was very good company
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Norris_(politician)
Seattle
Valued Senior Member
Accept the friend request and then put them on 30 day snooze.
exchemist
Valued Senior Member
Bugger off, Grandpa.
The last time I actually saw my 3 grand kids seems like ages ago. I managed to see my daughter in the middle of an empty park and had take away kebabs on two separate rugs set about 12 feet apart about 20 days ago..Bugger off, Grandpa.
I consider myself fortunate as this virus is the least of my personal concerns and if my daughter had only organized good internet access before the lock down like I suggested "face time" would have been possible.
=====
I am not going to labor the issue of the USA situation. Suffice to say that reporting is more reflective of the real situation in the USA than say Russia, Turkey, India, South America, Central America, Africa, Middle East etc...
However, extrapolating the USA or UK situation to nations with poor reporting especially India with it's vast population grants an insight into what could be expected in the next 14 days or so.
Keeping in mind that medical support and a lack of humanitarian aid as nations 1st world nations focus on their more immediate needs, needs to be considered.
The majority of the worlds population is only starting their COVID curves and due to their severe lack of high quality health care in those nations, extremely high density living conditions and religious predilections the global outcome ( stats) could be quite severe.
Currently the global death tally is about 146,000 and is significantly under reported and is mainly associated with 1st world nations with high quality health systems and reasonable wealth. Suffice to suggest that this 145K global CFR is actually incidental to what we can expect from the rest of the world.
The numbers could run into many millions if not a billion by the time the 2nd and 3rd world experience their relative curves, curves and the stats, that due to poor reporting, we shall have to deal with more after the events and not during or before.
(mainly 1st world - 17-04/2020)
2,178,848 CC
145,359 CFR
546, 746 Recovered
For every 1 death 3 recover.
For every 1 death there are 15 confirmed cases
Again it is worth noting that the statistics are lacking in credibility as to the reality of the situation for mainly the 1st world.
Seattle
Valued Senior Member
It's also not as big a deal in some 3rd world nations for several reasons. There is not as much contact with other countries so less contact between countries and ...in some cases they have bigger problems.
Or to put it another way, they always have high death rates due to 3rd world issues so in a way this is nothing new.
Meanwhile, back at home, the IRS can't even get it's own websites to work property. They set up a site for people to track their relief payments and to allow those who have filed taxes but who haven't provided bank routing info to the IRS to provide that info.
When people try to use the site by are either told they are locked out for 24 hours, technical difficulties, or "data doesn't match".
There are some questions that are asked that can't be logically answered so that locks people out as well. You have to answer all questions but one question is "Will you receive a refund or owe taxes...enter the amount". This is two questions so you have to pick either refund or owe payment but many people don't owe anything and don't get a refund either.
You can pick one such as I owe a payment and then enter zero in the box but this gets you locked out as well.
For those who made it all the way though just to see when they would be receiving a check (another reason for the website) if doesn't really answer that question either. It just says something like you should receive it soon.
No only does the site not work but when reporters ask the IRS about it they are told that the site works, it's just busy sometimes due to all the traffic and that millions of people have received their checks. In other words, there is no problem (sounds like Trump of course).
Or to put it another way, they always have high death rates due to 3rd world issues so in a way this is nothing new.
Meanwhile, back at home, the IRS can't even get it's own websites to work property. They set up a site for people to track their relief payments and to allow those who have filed taxes but who haven't provided bank routing info to the IRS to provide that info.
When people try to use the site by are either told they are locked out for 24 hours, technical difficulties, or "data doesn't match".
There are some questions that are asked that can't be logically answered so that locks people out as well. You have to answer all questions but one question is "Will you receive a refund or owe taxes...enter the amount". This is two questions so you have to pick either refund or owe payment but many people don't owe anything and don't get a refund either.
You can pick one such as I owe a payment and then enter zero in the box but this gets you locked out as well.
For those who made it all the way though just to see when they would be receiving a check (another reason for the website) if doesn't really answer that question either. It just says something like you should receive it soon.
No only does the site not work but when reporters ask the IRS about it they are told that the site works, it's just busy sometimes due to all the traffic and that millions of people have received their checks. In other words, there is no problem (sounds like Trump of course).
And, apparently, a fair number of the few stimulus cheques that have already gone out were deposited into the wrong accounts.
Meanwhile (at least, to the best of my knowledge) Canada's stimulus program was already effectively rolled out weeks ago--with intended recipients receiving two thousand dollars, directly deposited and on a monthly basis.
Seriously, how fucking hard can it be to directly deposit funds? Hundreds of millions of people use PayPal and the like on a daily basis with virtually no problems.
except that it is additional to those preexisting issues....
The massive refugee camps (1.4 million) in Uganda for example are highly vulnerable and already confirmed cases have been reported... ( ?)
17/04/2020
Africa
18,993 CC
968 CFR
very limited testing
True, one could hypothesize that the reason for 1st world impact being so early is because 1st worlder's travel internationally more...to other 1 st world nations and not so much to 3rd world nations however the virus is well and truly present in most African nations, regions of India and most other 3rd world nations and is currently spreading with little detection in high density populations.
Many also have low exposure to global news and very little ability to understand what is going on.
Last edited:
Seattle
Valued Senior Member
True, regarding it being in additional to other issues. The point was that not many people are talking about those other other issues as a concern of theirs so it's selective "worrying" if you will.
To put things in perspective
C/O Conversation :
It would be interesting to add global population estimates during each event...hmmm... if I have time I might do that..
Global population estimated at 1.8 billion during 1918 ( Spanish Flu)
Assuming 75 million deaths
1: 15.7
C/O Conversation :
It would be interesting to add global population estimates during each event...hmmm... if I have time I might do that..
Global population estimated at 1.8 billion during 1918 ( Spanish Flu)
Assuming 75 million deaths
1: 15.7
Last edited:
India, Philippines and Malaysia (as examples) have been on lock downs forever...that’s why their numbers are super low. Americans...we no listen. We just can’t handle staying at home - we’re borrrred and need our Starbucks ....you can’t take away our freedoms! *tantrums galore*
Americans...we no listen. That’s why we have a lot of deaths.
And no one’s talking about it, but obesity increases one’s chances of complications or death from CV19. And obesity is high in the US.
But if we could just get over ourselves, stay at home and make the best of it, we could flatten the curve. But...we no like being told what to do.
Americans...we no listen. That’s why we have a lot of deaths.
And no one’s talking about it, but obesity increases one’s chances of complications or death from CV19. And obesity is high in the US.
But if we could just get over ourselves, stay at home and make the best of it, we could flatten the curve. But...we no like being told what to do.
Last edited:
India went into lock down on the 24th March. ( too late IMO )
Australia went into lock down on the 1st of March. ( just in time )
The main issue is the need to close international borders and then regional borders... Every day the national borders stayed open the risk of infection spreading from over seas travelers was extremely high.
Also the capacity to test in India is extremely limited. So the low figures are not credible as to the reality there.
Most of our problems stem from an USA based Cruise liner the Ruby Princess and a few international arrivals from Iran. Admittedly the Iranian issue was picked up really quickly and resolved (quarantined) early...
Last edited:
That’s explains a lot of things.
Jk
Americans can barely handle three weeks...two months would have been chaos. I really want to scream when I hear Trump say “We weren’t built to be shut down.” Wtf does that even mean?
Last edited:
On media today an awful lot of talk on future relations with China ( our biggest trading partner), a lot of anger, a lot of concern.. etc..
Fear and anger are close cousins. Americans are complaining about China now, but many are probably scared thinking... but, who would make all that cheap stuff I love to buy? If Americans start reclaiming more manufacturing jobs, prices will go up. Soooo much is made in China.
As a matter of fact, I gave money to an Australian fires charity (based in Australia) and received a koala bear tee shirt. Guess where it was made?
Believe me, I am. Obesity is probably my biggest pet peeve.
My next biggest pet peeve is people not doing the most basic things correctly.
I only drink three things: water, coffee, tea (and occasionally some kind of vegetable juice). Anymore, with coffee, I only do quick extractions--so, a moka pot or espresso; press coffee or anything else tends to give me a headache. The only people who can generally be trusted to make espresso consistently are Italians, Portuguese, and French--most large cities elsewhere have maybe a handful of places that can be trusted, but outside of that it's a crapshoot. So... I have to do it myself, generally.
Lever/piston machines are essential where external factors cannot be tightly controlled, which is pretty much always and everywhere... So a lever/piston machine is essential. I'm cheap, minimal, and generally try to avoid excess power consumption, so that rules out a lot of things. A few years back, I decided I was going to make my own non-powered lever-press-type machine, but even with salvaging I wouldn't have been able to bring my cost down to what I got this for:
https://www.flairespresso.com/espressomakers
I think I paid like $ 120 for a "blemished" model, with a well machined, stainless steel tamper.
Anyways, 8 or 9 bars of pressure is easily attained, and one can control the consistency with which one applies said pressure. The portafilter basket has roughly half the surface area of a normal one, so you can only do a single shot at a time--and you heat water separately and pour into the cylinder, of course. And it's, relatively speaking, way more labor intensive, but you're talking four or five minutes maybe.
So, in summation: roast your own coffee--there's countless cheap, easy, and effective ways for doing this; grind with a proper manual burr grinder--the hario skerton is excellent; and invest in a decent, manual lever contraption--the flair is best, but there are others. And you're pretty much set for life.
Off topic, kinda, but whatever.
There is still considerable hardship, with people still living in tents and caravans etc. but at least there has been good rain which means this fire season coming may be a little more gentle which is a good thing because living in a tent, with high fire danger and COVID floating around would add up to to a nightmare...
ps. I am avoiding the China problem for the moment...
Okay, I want that. Here is what I have been using for the past few months and really love:Believe me, I am. Obesity is probably my biggest pet peeve.
My next biggest pet peeve is people not doing the most basic things correctly.
I only drink three things: water, coffee, tea (and occasionally some kind of vegetable juice). Anymore, with coffee, I only do quick extractions--so, a moka pot or espresso; press coffee or anything else tends to give me a headache. The only people who can generally be trusted to make espresso consistently are Italians, Portuguese, and French--most large cities elsewhere have maybe a handful of places that can be trusted, but outside of that it's a crapshoot. So... I have to do it myself, generally.
Lever/piston machines are essential where external factors cannot be tightly controlled, which is pretty much always and everywhere... So a lever/piston machine is essential. I'm cheap, minimal, and generally try to avoid excess power consumption, so that rules out a lot of things. A few years back, I decided I was going to make my own non-powered lever-press-type machine, but even with salvaging I wouldn't have been able to bring my cost down to what I got this for:
https://www.flairespresso.com/espressomakers
I think I paid like $ 120 for a "blemished" model, with a well machined, stainless steel tamper.
Anyways, 8 or 9 bars of pressure is easily attained, and one can control the consistency with which one applies said pressure. The portafilter basket has roughly half the surface area of a normal one, so you can only do a single shot at a time--and you heat water separately and pour into the cylinder, of course. And it's, relatively speaking, way more labor intensive, but you're talking four or five minutes maybe.
So, in summation: roast your own coffee--there's countless cheap, easy, and effective ways for doing this; grind with a proper manual burr grinder--the hario skerton is excellent; and invest in a decent, manual lever contraption--the flair is best, but there are others. And you're pretty much set for life.
Off topic, kinda, but whatever.
https://www.bodum.com/us/en/11571-1...TGV5cTsYMqykN_wY7vdR5pPMptfopd9xoCorYQAvD_BwE
I bought the most adorable steel tea kettle to use to ''pour over'' the water into the filter. I also grind my own beans.