A few thousand 'good leaders' or 'bad ones'......or would such a thing be, you know, subjective?
Hell, either ones, Sniffy. Just start naming women leaders in history who've made any kind of mark in history (other than just being a female leader!) and we'll all make up our own minds about "good" or "bad".
Nope, I'm convinced .... One of the greatest mistakes in the history of man was to give women the right to vote.
Baron Max
These four are the most influential female leaders I can recall off of the top of my head. With a little digging I could find you many more.
Margaret Thatcher, admittedly who has already been mentioned, left a huge mark on 1980s Britain. In my opinion this mark was undoubtedly for the worse, although that wasn't what you asked was it?
Joan of Arc almost single-handedly led French troops to fight the English at Orleans during the Hundred Years’ War (despite her grisly end).
Boudicca came within a whisker of defeating the Romans while leader of the Iceni tribe. She was fierce in battle and achieved more in terms of ground won than many of her male leader contemporaries.
Trung Trac and Trung Nhi were sisters who lead the Vietnamese revolt against China.
Empress Catherine II of Russia (the great)'s reign is often described as a 'golden age'. She was particularly noted by contemporary sources for her generous help of the peasants of Tsarskoe Selo and efforts to help the conditions of serfs in general.
Hell, either ones, Sniffy. Just start naming women leaders in history who've made any kind of mark in history (other than just being a female leader!) and we'll all make up our own minds about "good" or "bad".
Nope, I'm convinced .... One of the greatest mistakes in the history of man was to give women the right to vote.
Baron Max
Man didn't give women right to vote.
Pretty much. Certainly all the societies strongly influenced by the Abrahamic theisms, and all the great empires I can think of offhand, made more formal provision for political involvement by male slaves or male former slaves, male strangers or former strangers, than by women of any status.SAM said:You can jump in with any other society, I'm just wondering if this is how it is in most societies.
And yet, it is in monotheistic societies that women have gained a separate identity. How do you explain that?
Explain what? WTF does "gained a separate identity" mean? If you mean that monotheistic societies have in general provided women with more political power than other types, there's nothing to explain - it isn't true.SAM said:And yet, it is in monotheistic societies that women have gained a separate identity. How do you explain that?
Because a woman's place is in the home caring for the children, taking care of the house and cooking the meals for the man of the house. And if we'd held to that standard, the world would be a much better place in which to live!
The worst mistake in all of human history was giving women any fuckin' rights other than in her own home.
Baron Max
Just found out that black men had the right to vote, by law, in the US [1870] before women [1920]
Whats with that? American men are more scared of giving rights to women than to blacks?
Or is this a trend in societies? Does this explain why Obama was more saleable than Hillary?
Explain what? WTF does "gained a separate identity" mean? If you mean that monotheistic societies have in general provided women with more political power than other types, there's nothing to explain - it isn't true.