Xev
The kingdom of Zulu comes to mind but I doubt it qualifies for the title of civilization.
The kingdom of Zulu comes to mind but I doubt it qualifies for the title of civilization.
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Oh the dude was a bastard but I was just taking a shot at Xev's question.WANDERER said:
If you know them without research, then they are in most probability famous. This is how fame comes into play, you nitwit. A black philospher? I think I already gave you a response.
You lack an ability to think logically. Nose shape is a physical difference. The notion of a race is based on distinguishable external features. People are then grouped into "races" based on these physical differences. Others(you) further speculate then that these so called races differ intellectually. The logical progression therefore becomes that by physical features, we can distinguish mental capacity. How so? The two are not related. Of course men differ physically and mentally, but as individuals.
No, not empricism, overgenerealization and non sequiturs. If a developmental difference caused both physical and mental differences, then the two will be linked. Therefore, an appearance of said physical difference will accompany the mental change. There is no such linkage.
Sarge, let me handle this please! If you want to know, there were Kush, Ghana, Songhai, Mali, Zimbabwe, Benin, Egypt, etc....
Yea Sarge let him handle this.thefountainhed said:
That was your funniest post yet.
Ghana as a civilization?
What the fuck are you talking about idiot?
What the hell did the Songhai leave us to ponder over, eating bananas and headhunting?
Maybe how to paint the body or how to stew man flesh.
Ok, one idiot, Wanderer, done with. Next up, Xev:
How so? Perhaps you'd like to tell us why they can hardly be classified as "black"?
You show a tremendous lack of knowledge woman. "Ivory coast" kingdoms? Which? And what characterizes a civililization? Stone walls? Using specialization, complexity, city size, etc Mali with its great city of timbuktu, the Kushites, Zimbabwe, Benin, etc all were civilizations.
The simplest way for you to find them would be to look at Muslims.
Who then do you attribute the "notion" to?
I am neither a fool nor impotent. You know this.
God you're fucked up.
Name one civilization, not some huts around a fire or some naked savages with feathers in their hair,but a great civilization moron!!!!!
Name one civilization that gave something, anything to humanity.
Name one, ONE!!!!, black philosopher that expanded human thought.
Maybe Jesus huh?
Have you declared victory you pathetic idiot.
There I win , moving on.
Name one civilization, not some huts around a fire or some naked savages with feathers in their hair,but a great civilization moron!!!!!
Name one civilization that gave something, anything to humanity.
Name one, ONE!!!!, black philosopher that expanded human thought.
Maybe Jesus huh?
Have you declared victory you pathetic idiot.
There I win , moving on.
here is how i see mediterraneans aka greeks
swarthy, kinky hair, large facial features
obvious niggers
a major point of departure from africans proper was of course, thier prediliction for little boy ass
you had your time in the sun (pun...hehe)
resign yourselves to has been status
resign yourselves to delusions of grandeur
your minds are like your buildings....in ruins, empty
step aside and let real white folk occupy the rightful throne
step aside or be crushed
you have been warned
step the fuck aside
swarthy, kinky hair, large facial features
obvious niggers
a major point of departure from africans proper was of course, thier prediliction for little boy ass
you had your time in the sun (pun...hehe)
resign yourselves to has been status
resign yourselves to delusions of grandeur
your minds are like your buildings....in ruins, empty
step aside and let real white folk occupy the rightful throne
step aside or be crushed
you have been warned
step the fuck aside
who are these greeks? they inherited sciences from egypt and india. made minor modifications. systems of governance is borrowed. where is the originality?
what is their claim to fame? ahh yes
the nude olympics
student apprenticeship
all insidious homosexual scams
step the fuck up greek boosters!
lemme show you how you scammed a civ
what is their claim to fame? ahh yes
the nude olympics
student apprenticeship
all insidious homosexual scams
step the fuck up greek boosters!
lemme show you how you scammed a civ
fountainboy:
Because they were not exclusively blacks.
http://www.stormfront.org/whitehistory/egypt.htm
I said "great civilization". I accept that there were civilized or semi civilized places in Africa.
So...what have they left behind? What philosophical and artistic works, what scientific discoveries?
Islam is a religion, not a race. The Muslim civilizations were not built by blacks but people of middle-eastern descent, predominently Iranians.
*Chuckles*
How on earth would I know that?
Because they were not exclusively blacks.
http://www.stormfront.org/whitehistory/egypt.htm
I said "great civilization". I accept that there were civilized or semi civilized places in Africa.
So...what have they left behind? What philosophical and artistic works, what scientific discoveries?
Islam is a religion, not a race. The Muslim civilizations were not built by blacks but people of middle-eastern descent, predominently Iranians.
*Chuckles*
How on earth would I know that?
WANDERER said:
greece/socrates
there you go
a negro civ
HLA alleles were determined in individuals from the Republic of Macedonia by DNA typing and sequencing and were compared against those from other Mediterranean populations. Below are some of the conclusions:
Macedonians belong to the "older" Mediterranean substratum, like Iberians (including Basques), North Africans, Italians, French, Cretans, Jews, Lebanese, Turks (Anatolians), Armenians and Iranians.
Macedonians are not related with geographically close Greeks, who do not belong to the "older" Mediterranenan substratum.
Greeks are found to have a substantial relatedness to sub-Saharan (Ethiopian) people, which separate them from other Mediterranean groups.
Genetic distances are closer between Greeks and Ethiopian/sub-Saharan groups than to any other Mediterranean group.
Macedonians are related to other Mediterraneans and do not show a close relationship with Greeks: however, they do with Cretans. This supports the theory that Macedonians are one of the most ancient peoples living in the Balkan peninsula, probably long before the arrival of the Mycaenian Greeks, about 2000 BC.
HLA Genes in Macedonians and sub-Saharan Origin of Greeks - Dec. 2000
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the fact is you southern europeans are trash. the impetus, the direction of the civ was provided by a nordic ruling class. not half breeds
where is the commonality. you expect a swede to gesticulate wildly like a frikkin sicilian? fuck goats like the greeks? merely sharing a continent dont mean shit.
begone i say darken not the race any further mr cosapopulous nicostanpopopopgoatherder begone back to africa!
where is the commonality. you expect a swede to gesticulate wildly like a frikkin sicilian? fuck goats like the greeks? merely sharing a continent dont mean shit.
begone i say darken not the race any further mr cosapopulous nicostanpopopopgoatherder begone back to africa!
Stupid assertment. I suppose everyone in old Attica was "white"? An asian + black farmer in ancient Egypt makes that civilization not black, eh? Get a better source.
"great" civilization? This is absolutely silly. So what is your subjective take on greatness?
What have they left behind? Again you show a tremendous lack of knowledge. Find out porteguese reports on the great Benin upon first encounter. Look to the Phoenicians and Greeks for influences of Kush and Egypt. Look at Timbiktu, which for centuries, was the greatest learning center in the world, etc etc. Yuck.
I said that great philopher would be a muslim, yes. An african muslim, you nitwit.
Don't be silly.
WANDERER said:
Good grief. Is that what you call an sound argument?
How exactly does 'having a civilisation' (in an Incan or Minoan sense) make people more or less 'great'? It's a circular argument.
Nobody 'gave anything to humanity' that wasn't a two edged sword. Not all gifts are good ones. Giving gifts to humanity may well be something that it is wiser not to do.
The practise of Western academic analytic philosophy does not make you a better or greater person, more's the pity.
You're entitled to have strange opinions, but please get a decent argument together for them.
I recommend a book called 'Mutant Message Down Under' by Marlo Morgan. It's a study of aboriginal civilisation. It may open your eyes a little.
thefountainhed:
Ad hominem. If you cannot attack the conclusions, don't attack. Source is irrelevent as long as argument is sound.
"Find out", why should I have to "find out" if they were such spectacular bastards? These great civilizations are few and far between.
And for the record, I do not believe this to be rooted in race so much as climate. I do not argue black inferiourity, I simply do not like the prevailing academic trend of exaggerating every black achievement in past history and saying that the present is obviously the fault of racism/colonialism/capitalism
Okay, so who is this "African Muslim philosopher"?
boombox:
Nope.
Canute:
Strawman, where does he argue that?
Irrelevent.
Again irrelevent.
Ad hominem. If you cannot attack the conclusions, don't attack. Source is irrelevent as long as argument is sound.
"Find out", why should I have to "find out" if they were such spectacular bastards? These great civilizations are few and far between.
And for the record, I do not believe this to be rooted in race so much as climate. I do not argue black inferiourity, I simply do not like the prevailing academic trend of exaggerating every black achievement in past history and saying that the present is obviously the fault of racism/colonialism/capitalism
Okay, so who is this "African Muslim philosopher"?
boombox:
Nope.
Canute:
Strawman, where does he argue that?
Irrelevent.
Again irrelevent.
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