Not at all, I may be wrong about many of things in life and my understanding of religion, that does not make my creator wrong though in any way.
It does not instantly make your creator right either. Thus my point.
I also understand your itch of wanting to see proof to believe.....A proof other than if the egg exist, then a chicken must have existed kindda sublte proof.
Glad you see my 'itch'.
You must first understand the meaning of life and purpose of creation to understand your relationship with your creator.
Meaning of life differs from person to person- nobody is inherently wrong, nobody is ultimately right. As for purpose of creation..... There's nothing to prove we were 'created' so all talk of needing to understand relationships with 'my'? creator are pure speculation and supposition. They hold no more weight than a lonely drifting feather.
If you don't understand your purpose in life SnakeLord
My personal purpose in life is to find answers and never to just accept something on faith. I understand that perfectly.
I always question over and over again when I look at life
Why question if you already have your answer? Or... more to the point why think you are asking questions? If you already have the answer those questions are mere time fillers.
Quite simply the Ever-Living Self-Subsistent One (God) makes subtle this dark, transient, lowly world, illuminates it and gives it a sort of permanence, preparing it to go to another, everlasting world;
Speculation, supposition, guess work.
Life might be amazing, might be wonderful and incredible to us. That still doesn't have to point a finger at an 'ever living self subsistent being'.
That is so condescending.
True true, but im only human.
Before I begin, I would just like to point that you have answered a question with a question
Well....... I actually put my answer to the question then asked a question as 'return fire'
That's what keeps debates alive!! What i mean by this is, in response to wes question you could have said: "Not to my knowledge, no. However have you got any examples to show me?"
so hopefully, you will understand why I sometimes do it, and refrain from your lead weight put-downs.
Lead weight put downs? Ah dont take it that way. I was 'speculating' that you did in fact know exactly what he was talking about... The meaning might have been subtle but im sure you got the point. Let me ask for one answer as solid as can be given: If i 'deny' God my whole life and continue along a path to find my own truths will God hold that against me once i die? If i am a serving christian with love of god and jesus i take it i'd gain access to 'heaven', eternal life, whatever. What if i am not? What happens to me?
The descriptions vary according to the particular scripture, because people are different, as I mentioned earlier.
Of course they vary- time, influence, personal belief, translation errors, stories mixed with 'chinese whispers' and so on. Doesn't mean any of them are right or even close to accurate. You and i could sit and discuss months of the year.... Most are named after supposedly mythical gods..... and realise that history has a diverse effect on belief, religion and society. What you believe now is so different to what people believed 5000 years ago, what people in other cultures believe etc..... Who's to say who is right? Because you feel god, hear god are concious of what you assume to be god doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things. Billions of people feel, hear and are concious of things that are in direct contradiction to your own truths. All of them remain 'might or might not'.
That is a fair question, I have never come across a scripture where it says that you go to hell if you’re not a member.
I think you're sidestepping the question personally. Ok maybe he worded it wrong.. Not neccesarily being a 'member' of anything but there are specific rules and regulations in place in most religions, if not all. Do the people who do not follow these rules and regulations, (thou shalt not commit adultery etc- [Which would put two thirds of England in hell]), for whatever reason, get doomed? I think that's what he meant.
If that is alright with you, that is.
Ask God....it's nothing to do with me.
Remember, this man boasts that he is a gifted brainy guy, and operates on a level of logic and reason, so I expect he must have shed-loads of proof to back up his statement.
Nobody has shed-loads of proof. Let's agree hopefully that this is nothing more than 'swapping notes'. It's like a giant universal college, of which we are all students, and sometimes it's best to have a look at what your colleagues have written. Doesn't mean they're right, but at the very least might provide us with more questions and some answers.
