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What if the company has found that certain personality types tend to do better in management jobs. What is you issue in using such tests in addition to everything else that is considered?
Are you an introvert or extrovert?
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Wow! Just wow. It might be worth getting some legal advice. Not suggesting to sue, but it's not fair to be let go from a job, simply because you didn't fit in with a preferred demographic.It was an eye-opening experience to be on the "outside". The team was comprised of mostly 20 and 30-year-olds. About 50% women and all but myself were East or South Asian.
It was great for the first 3/4ths. I really enjoyed the diversity in people and culture (I live in the most diverse city in one of the most diverse countries in the world). But when this person decided I was cramping her style, my whole perspective changed. I started to view myself through her eyes as an older, white male with the stink of privilege - a threat to a young millennial clique. (Most others liked me, just not her. She was older and more senior.)
My contract ended 7 weeks early, and I'm pretty certain this had a great deal to do with it.
So I'm handling it about as well as can be expected. Keeping my chin up & all.
I forgot about ''hun,'' yea I've heard women call men that. Can't imagine addressing a coworker by anything other than his/her name. lol
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Nor can I. Most/all of them say something about the speaker rather than the guy. Hun, honey is usually an older waitress or something like that. Babe would probably be said by a girlfriend to her boyfriend. If neither of them like it, it probably isn't said. My man is usually said by a possessive person.Wow! Just wow. It might be worth getting some legal advice. Not suggesting to sue, but it's not fair to be let go from a job, simply because you didn't fit in with a preferred demographic.
I forgot about ''hun,'' yea I've heard women call men that. Can't imagine addressing a coworker by anything other than his/her name. lol
As I said, some people assume there are right and wrong answers. There are not.
Seattle
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She sounds like a swell gal, a chick, a bird, a shella, a dame, a babe, baby, but at the end of the day she is taken so she can't be my woman.
I took the test for my own personal information. All my life I had noticed that I apparently didn't process information the same way many other people do. Things other people found hard, I found to be easy and/or obvious. And I wasn't interested in the same things most of the other people in my social circles were. I always assumed I was just odd.
When I read the description of my type, it hit me as to how accurate it was.
haha ^^ ''gal'' Sigh - So cringey. (that is in response to Seattle's comment above)
Something that has been said about me when being introduced by a male colleague, to a male colleague from another office ''...and, she's smart, too.'' And, I have this plastered fake smile on my face, as I shake my colleague's hand.
Yea, sexism comes in many forms. Sometimes, it's outrageously obvious and other times, it's subtle. But, the subtle sexist comments add up.
Something that has been said about me when being introduced by a male colleague, to a male colleague from another office ''...and, she's smart, too.'' And, I have this plastered fake smile on my face, as I shake my colleague's hand.
Yea, sexism comes in many forms. Sometimes, it's outrageously obvious and other times, it's subtle. But, the subtle sexist comments add up.
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I kinda like ''shella.'' hahaShe sounds like a swell gal, a chick, a bird, a shella, a dame, a babe, baby, but at the end of the day she is taken so she can't be my woman.
''...and, she's smart, too.''
Sounds like a line right out of "Mad Men"... finished the final season a few mounths ago... cringe-worthy series but i loved it... have you seen it.???
Seattle
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It also depends on who is doing the calling. If Holly Berry calls me babe or even her man...I'm probably not offended.
Seattle
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Gal is the worst. I'm not sure "she's smart too" is sexist necessarily. Is "he's smart too" sexist? It's a superficial comment to be sure. It strikes me more as trying too hard to find a compliment when it's better to just introduce someone and then let their personality/ability speak for itself.
lol "Halle", but gotcha.It also depends on who is doing the calling. If Holly Berry calls me babe or even her man...I'm probably not offended.
So true, definitely depends on who's calling me what. In a corporate setting, it's just so strange to hear sexist remarks.
Of course there are! Unless you're taking the test in private, for your own amusement, or edification, there is some objective. Like:
Some particular box is preferred. You don't always know what the tester is looking for, but you want the best chance of ticking that preferred box, so you look for what would indicate the more valued traits and try to claim them.
The fact that some 'type' on paper statistically 'does better' often leads to both unfair and unproductive decisions. The personnel manager doesn't spend a lot of time in the warehouse: all he knows is forms. This forklift operator scored high on organization and spatial acuity on a test he took that told him to be a pilot, which of course he hadn't got a hope in hell of being. So he's been in this warehouse for six years, knows the stock, the delivery schedule, the equipment, the potential hazards, the other guys - even where that sweating water-pipe in the north-west corner makes a puddle on hot days.
So this is the latest fashionable test, and he's passed over for snot-nosed kid who ticked the boxes the suit upstairs was looking for.
Nothing wrong with them for fun, or self-validation or to broaden your range of interests.
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Right. There are no guarantees. It just provides greater odds that those decisions will be fair and productive.
DaveC426913
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My wife calls me Bunny. In public. In her outside voice.Nor can I. Most/all of them say something about the speaker rather than the guy. Hun, honey is usually an older waitress or something like that. Babe would probably be said by a girlfriend to her boyfriend. If neither of them like it, it probably isn't said. My man is usually said by a possessive person.
Yea, I agree, but in this case, you'd have to be there; rumor has it that he finds me attractive, so the fact that he thinks I'm smart (too) is his way of implying that to me. The fun never ends where I work, yeah!!
DaveC426913
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It started with our Goddaughter (who was about 8), who took to calling me Unca Bunny. Now they all call me this.I really want to ask why she calls you this, but I won't.
Even my macho tech buddy set up my Wifi with the username Hunny Bunny.
I just can't win.
But it could be worse. Our Goddaughter took to calling my wife Mama Baby Fiat.
Don't ask. I don't know.Or, you could just let the applicant talk, make up your own mind, and take responsibility for the decision rather than playing 'the odds'.