Are scientists always trustworthy? Should we believe everything they say?

Happeh said:
You can all be certain, because I swear it to you, that when I am famous, I will be certain to describe in detail the frauds posing as scientists at sciforums.
comes from a man that beleives in darth vader choke powers

stop playing the whiny brat happeh

i am more convinced than ever that you have done the research and it disproved you.
so therefore you have chosen to ignore it like everything else you don't agree with.
this topic belongs in the pseudoscience forum, not here
 
Happeh said:
Not a "give me evidence" question.
if you do not have any evidence after 5+ years of research when do you think you will have some? when hell freezes over?
 
Happeh said:

You must answer this, because it is relevant for us. Or rather, we can deduce that the answer is that you HAVE NO EXPERIENCE in any of these fields.
 
Happeh said:
I think so. I think I said somewhere that Chinese medicine says that the kidneys are associated with sexual activity. Or maybe that was in my book. I forget.

Your book? Your theory? BS.

You need to stop believing in Chinese medicine - it is very outdated and partially based on superstition.
 
Happeh said:
Keep telling yourself that. One of these days you will find out I am right. You will see me on TV or see one of my books at your bookstore, or an article about me in the news.

You can all be certain, because I swear it to you, that when I am famous, I will be certain to describe in detail the frauds posing as scientists at sciforums.

Stop dreaming, Happeh. Your claims will never become reality.
 
Facial said:
You must answer this, because it is relevant for us.
like i said before, happeh has not produced any verifiable evidence of any training in those feilds
although it has been detemined that he has been to college
for how long and what subjects studied is unknown

you can rest assured that if he had education in any relevant field that he would acknowledge it.
 
I do hate spoiling everyone's party and talking about the topic, but nevertheless:
Happeh said:
This story is about how the government is for corporations making profits, instead of being for people like us being healthy. Many studies showing cell phones cause cancer have been released. They have all been ignored to sell cell phones.
Too many conspiracy theories attribute bad things to the determination of global coporations to make profits at all costs. Of course, they do want to make profits. But what do they want to profit from? From stuff that sells. Stuff that sells is stuff that people want. This isn't "global conspiracy", it's democracy in action!

In this case, the studies aren't numerous or definitive enough to force a government to take action. But if mobile phones were definitively shown to be dangerous by slightly increasing ones chances of getting a brain tumour, the fact is that those scientific results would be by and large ignored, not by governments, not by big business, but by the people who damn well won't give up their phones. As they won't give up their cigarettes (at least, I won't), their burgers and their cheap gasolene.

By the way, did I misunderstand the topic title? I thought the one about scientists lying was where the study about women being different to men was suppressed by "Nature" or something. This story is about scientists finding something out that nobody wants to hear, and not casting doubt on the word of the scientists.
 
Precisely. Tobacco and brain frying cell phones are to be applauded as effective tools of natural selection in the drive to increase the average intelligence of humans.
 
Ophiolite said:
Precisely. Tobacco and brain frying cell phones are to be applauded as effective tools of natural selection in the drive to increase the average intelligence of humans.
Ha! :D
 
Silas said:
I do hate spoiling everyone's party and talking about the topic, but nevertheless:Too many conspiracy theories attribute bad things to the determination of global coporations to make profits at all costs. Of course, they do want to make profits. But what do they want to profit from? From stuff that sells. Stuff that sells is stuff that people want. This isn't "global conspiracy", it's democracy in action!

me)))))Silas. if je memory serves me well. i am sure i've read good shit from you. bu the above is truly not!....i would very much recommend-URGENTLY-you go and research about Edward Bernays, and how he helped to create, wit help from his uncle SIGmund Freud's psychoanalytical theories, ways to SECRETLY manipulate the 'masses'' to--listen up--BUY PRODUCTS THEY DIDN'T NEED. yes? tis is a conspiracy yes it is.
and no, what we are in is NOT a democracy at all.

In this case, the studies aren't numerous or definitive enough to force a government to take action. But if mobile phones were definitively shown to be dangerous by slightly increasing ones chances of getting a brain tumour, the fact is that those scientific results would be by and large ignored, not by governments, not by big business, but by the people who damn well won't give up their phones. As they won't give up their cigarettes (at least, I won't), their burgers and their cheap gasolene.

the 'people'? do you include CHILDREN as 'the people'?...leytme ask you. IF yu had any doubts about the safeness of mobile phones, after looking at the evidence, including what i have introduced you to above. are you willin to gamble with your child's well-being?

By the way, did I misunderstand the topic title? I thought the one about scientists lying was where the study about women being different to men was suppressed by "Nature" or something. This story is about scientists finding something out that nobody wants to hear, and not casting doubt on the word of the scientists.

for me this thread is trying to exploree the scientific fascism we are all emerged in. after all this IS the materialistic paradgim isn't it?
 
duendy said:
for me this thread is trying to exploree the scientific fascism we are all emerged in. after all this IS the materialistic paradgim isn't it?
No, it's not about that. That is just one of your personal demons that result from your deluded thinking.
 
Light said:
No, it's not about that. That is just one of your personal demons that result from your deluded thinking.
look charmless spitting dick-ed. what does 'for me' mean?...
 
duendy said:
look charmless spitting dick-ed. what does 'for me' mean?...
Simply that it's just another in a long list of evils that you have perceived in your deluded view of reality. To you, everything is just part of another conspiracy theory. It's called an extreme (in your case) persecution complex.

So at least give yourself some credit - you pretty well rank #1 in something after all.
 
Ophiolite said:
Sigh.......

More in depth and intelligent response from Ophiolite.

I hope you don't mind waiting while I digest this. The complexity is truly difficult for me to comprehend.
 
Light said:
Simply that it's just another in a long list of evils that you have perceived in your deluded view of reality. To you, everything is just part of another conspiracy theory. It's called an extreme (in your case) persecution complex.

So at least give yourself some credit - you pretty well rank #1 in something after all.
professor liteshite. did i come to your place of rip-offery fr a fukin diagnosis??
wel, no? so why it you keep doin i then. like i would listen to a complete imbecile like you anhyhow, whose onl pupose on tese boards is sending boring attacks on people togther with manic UNDERLININGS. are yus showing off your underlining text feature? you clod head

your shitter's so tight it could crack hardnuts
 
duendy said:
professor liteshite. did i come to your place of rip-offery fr a fukin diagnosis??
wel, no? so why it you keep doin i then. like i would listen to a complete imbecile like you anhyhow, whose onl pupose on tese boards is sending boring attacks on people togther with manic UNDERLININGS. are yus showing off your underlining text feature? you clod head

your shitter's so tight it could crack hardnuts
OK, for starters, then, we know you claim to be an artist. That's because you are home all the time and can diddle around. And that's because you are on the government dole since you can't work due to your mental disability.

You're also afraid of everything and everyone, including your shadow. Actually believing that everything in the world is a plot against humanity. All the companies are evil. You do drugs on a regular basis and claim they are the source of everything you know. You urge other people with mental problems to just ignore it and do some of your drugs instead.

You're also a worthless old hag who probably hasn't done anything useful in years - if not decades.

Shall I go on?

And don't anyone call this flaming or a personal attack of any kind. She actually asked for it by claiming we knew nothing about her - when in fact, we know a considerable amount.
 
Light said:
OK, for starters, then, we know you claim to be an artist. That's because you are home all the time and can diddle around. And that's because you are on the government dole since you can't work due to your mental disability.

You're also afraid of everything and everyone, including your shadow. Actually believing that everything in the world is a plot against humanity. All the companies are evil. You do drugs on a regular basis and claim they are the source of everything you know. You urge other people with mental problems to just ignore it and do some of your drugs instead.

You're also a worthless old hag who probably hasn't done anything useful in years - if not decades.

Shall I go on?

And don't anyone call this flaming or a personal attack of any kind. She actually asked for it by claiming we knew nothing about her - when in fact, we know a considerable amount.

whose 'we' you pompous cretin of the first order?...you and yer fascist mates?
the thpught of someone going to thelikes of you for 'help' with psychological problems?....jeeeeZUS!
 
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