Anyone can read the Bible. - Really?
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Fair enough, but I was flitting from one thread to the next and no time to go back over it all, but caught up now.
Look I don't claim to be a theologian, and I have never been to a Bible college but I have experienced a revelation from the Spirit of Truth. I would be willing to share this on a PM scale, for I am so new to this forum, and I want to protect myself from violent abuse, but I offered to tell you in a PM.
If you spent enough time googling my username the message is bound to be found on the internet already.
What abuse could you possibly fear, if you have a personal revelation from the Spirit of Truth??
Right.
On the one hand you'll reveal this "information" ONLY in a PM (to avoid potential embarassment and "violent abuse") and on the other hand it's already publicly available.
Er, how does that work?
Revelation from the spirit of truth?
But, not, apparently, one from the spirits of common sense or consistency as yet.
On the one hand you'll reveal this "information" ONLY in a PM (to avoid potential embarassment and "violent abuse") and on the other hand it's already publicly available.
Er, how does that work?
Revelation from the spirit of truth?
But, not, apparently, one from the spirits of common sense or consistency as yet.
The difference is if you went to look for it, you really want to know what it was. If I was to just tell you, I bet the people like yourself are just too keen to beat up on me. So i am protecting myself from people like you.Right.
On the one hand you'll reveal this "information" ONLY in a PM (to avoid potential embarassment and "violent abuse") and on the other hand it's already publicly available.
Er, how does that work?
Revelation from the spirit of truth?
But, not, apparently, one from the spirits of common sense or consistency as yet.
But nothing is stopping you to PM me as well.
How can anyone beat you up, if you have a personal revelation from the Spirit of Truth??
Isn't the personal revelation from the Spirit of Truth supposed to make you invincible??
nothing stops them from beating you up in PM..
a test of your faith is how well you handle scrutiny..
is your faith so weak that it cannot withstand a little humility?
@Rob --
If you want to protect yourself from abuse then not making claims that you have absolutely not supporting evidence for is probably the best start for you. Because that's the thing about science, it's brutally honest and your feelings don't matter.
So you had a "revelation" and you wish me to lend credence to your revelation. Now, even though I don't know what your revelation is I can still point out a few problems with this. For starters you want me to accept a revelation, an experience which is entirely subjective and can't be reproduced, as evidence, that won't fly here. Another problem is that you won't, or can't, support your "revelation" with evidence that it actually happened, this is another big no-no. Finally, even if I grant all of that, how are you going to deal with all of the revelations which conflict with yours, for if I grant your revelation the status of "evidence" then I must also do so for all other revelations.
So, unless you tell me what your revelation was and can support it's occurrence with evidence that it actually happened(or better yet, evidence that said spirit of truth actually exists) you will give me no honest alternative to rejecting your claim.
If you want to protect yourself from abuse then not making claims that you have absolutely not supporting evidence for is probably the best start for you. Because that's the thing about science, it's brutally honest and your feelings don't matter.
So you had a "revelation" and you wish me to lend credence to your revelation. Now, even though I don't know what your revelation is I can still point out a few problems with this. For starters you want me to accept a revelation, an experience which is entirely subjective and can't be reproduced, as evidence, that won't fly here. Another problem is that you won't, or can't, support your "revelation" with evidence that it actually happened, this is another big no-no. Finally, even if I grant all of that, how are you going to deal with all of the revelations which conflict with yours, for if I grant your revelation the status of "evidence" then I must also do so for all other revelations.
So, unless you tell me what your revelation was and can support it's occurrence with evidence that it actually happened(or better yet, evidence that said spirit of truth actually exists) you will give me no honest alternative to rejecting your claim.
Now that is not fair. I was willing to tell you.
Do you know what tons of humility feels like.
Been there done that!
Since you reject my claim, I won't tell you. But look I had this revelation and it baffled me and it took me 9 years (pre internet) to find the evidence to make it seem like it was an historic truth that no one but myself knows.
Hardly factual then.
duh..i am a theist and i still hang out here..
as far as your revelation..of course ppl are gonna tell you it is BS..both theist and non-theist..this is part of the battle.
the validity of a revelation of God is between you and God.
If you are looking to find others to give validity to your revelation, you will not find it.(what God wants from you may not be the same as what God wants from me)
but that should not stop you from sharing that revelation..who knows..maybe it will speak to someone.(odds are it won't,but you never know.)
If you did not wish to share then you should not have dangled that carrot.
We have a successor of Lori!
No reason to doubt it. How can everything that happened 2000 years ago have hard factual evidence? Many things get lost in the passage of time.