That is because you have still got things to learn.
Anyone can read the Bible. - Really?
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Did they teach you about the Spirit of Truth? Not the Holy Spirit but the Spirit of truth.
Jesus mentions it in Gospel of John. It reveals truth to selected people. That to me is religious truth. You should look into it.
I know for a fact it is not metaphorical.
I could but only via PM not on the forum.
By "you have to make judgements" you mean something like 'you have to decide whether this or that is true or false; and if it is true, embrace it, and if it is false, reject it'?
Basically, yes.
When I was in my mid-twenties (about 30 years ago) I came to the conclusion that God and Jesus were real. Not through any logical means, but in my "heart" it just felt right. So I studied the Bible in order to discover the "truth".
I read the book and tried to reconcile all the logical inconsistenices. Those I couldn't reconcile, I asked those who "knew" and watched all the hoops they tried to jump through to make it all make sense.
I can honestly say, that it was sincere heart felt attempt to understand it that brought me to the conclusion that it's all fable and myth. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Myth and fable can be very powerful and can contain some deep insights.
Then again, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy contains many deep insights on human nature too.
Would you ever reject something on the grounds of "I don't know, I don't understand"?
Or is it that for you, it is possible to reject something only if you are convinced it is wrong/false/bad?
I could but only via PM not on the forum.
why not?
someone else has pry already tried in public..
IOW your take pry has already been posted.
gmilam,
What was it that felt right?
And why did you conclude ''God and Jesus'' were ''real''?
What was it that made you decide ''God and Jesus'' WASN'T ''real''?
What was that feeling in your heart, that felt right?
jan.
What was it that felt right?
And why did you conclude ''God and Jesus'' were ''real''?
What was it that made you decide ''God and Jesus'' WASN'T ''real''?
What was that feeling in your heart, that felt right?
jan.
Can you rephrase that I can't understand you just yet?
I've just got up from a good night's sleep so, fill me in on what I have missed.
Me out of my league , what are you on about?
Making claims you can't substantiate.
What that I had a good night's sleep!
@Rob --
All you have to do is follow my posts. First you say that I need to learn some things, I mentioned that I could almost assuredly "learn" you theists a thing or two about your religion, you ask me about "the spirit of truth", I thought you were talking about the televangelist.
You then make the outrageous claim that you know for a fact that such a spirit exists and when I ask you to provide evidence you tell me that you can only do so privately. Now, I'm not an "expert"(though I am close) but it seems to me that if you have evidence on something of this magnitude then everyone around us would have a right to know such important information.
The conclusion I've reached due to this exchange is that you're far, far less educated about religion than I am. You're out of your league here.
All you have to do is follow my posts. First you say that I need to learn some things, I mentioned that I could almost assuredly "learn" you theists a thing or two about your religion, you ask me about "the spirit of truth", I thought you were talking about the televangelist.
You then make the outrageous claim that you know for a fact that such a spirit exists and when I ask you to provide evidence you tell me that you can only do so privately. Now, I'm not an "expert"(though I am close) but it seems to me that if you have evidence on something of this magnitude then everyone around us would have a right to know such important information.
The conclusion I've reached due to this exchange is that you're far, far less educated about religion than I am. You're out of your league here.