Japan is not an Atheist nation where several religions are practiced .
An Atheist world is not a better world because so many Atheists are very dangerous .
An athiest world = a better world.
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An Atheist world is not a better world because so many Atheists are very dangerous .
So.....?.........That's bullshit. There are just as many dangerous theists...
.So.....?.........
Soooo......if that's true whats your point? :shrug:
The point is clear sir/ madam :
An Atheist world is NOT equal a better world .......
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I was being sarcastic, I guess I should have put a
Perhaps, sometimes its hard to differentiate sarcasm on forums like these
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Okay so basically no one has said anything that detracts from the main point that has been made, that some countries have demonstrated that without belief in god they are able to function as well or better than thiest countries.
If this is the case then why do thiests still say that without belief in god society would fall apart, when there is actually evidence to the contrary?
And if what has made the athiest countries mentioned better than the thiest countries, is actually their wealth, then why is there a need for religion at all? This points to a need for money, not god.
Would people be better off investing 10% of their income rather than giving it to god?
Should there be missionaries that go around creating economic stability rather than religious unrest?
If this is the case then why do thiests still say that without belief in god society would fall apart, when there is actually evidence to the contrary?
And if what has made the athiest countries mentioned better than the thiest countries, is actually their wealth, then why is there a need for religion at all? This points to a need for money, not god.
Would people be better off investing 10% of their income rather than giving it to god?
Should there be missionaries that go around creating economic stability rather than religious unrest?
There are a number of theories about the evolution of religion. Certain aspects of it, such as dietary laws have been shown to be the result of practical problems within society. One could argue that religion has been a unifying force for nations, and that personal belief could be beneficial in a society that requires it's males to engage in extremely risky behavior, like war. I don't think that's a very compelling argument in favor of religion.
in case you haven't noticed, people have died in the name of practically everything - democracy, homosexuality, fascism, apartheid, equal rights, etc etc.
Frankly, your attempt to reduce humanity to some sort of bacteria that simply concerns itself with issues of feeding and reproduction is a poor caricature.
Actually an Atheist world would be a much much better world. But, not due to Atheism. Atheism is the byproduct of such a world. In prosperous, stable, tolerant and peaceful societies people become atheist - pretty much by default.
IMO theism is a double edged sword, it's a by product of insecurity, because it offers people hope of a better existence. Even if this hope is in another galaxy with Xenu or another spin of the Karma Cycle or floating around on clouds with hymen regenerating virgins.
The problem is some forms of theism perpetuate insecurity and themselves. Like viral memes. One of the worse is monotheism because it teaches it's members to be bigoted and intolerant of all other belief systems. This then leads to war. Which of course leads to more members in the theism. If you notice your religion's expansion going hand in hand with war, then, you may want to pull your head out and realize it's expanding in influence due to insecurity perpetuated by war.
IMO theism is a double edged sword, it's a by product of insecurity, because it offers people hope of a better existence. Even if this hope is in another galaxy with Xenu or another spin of the Karma Cycle or floating around on clouds with hymen regenerating virgins.
The problem is some forms of theism perpetuate insecurity and themselves. Like viral memes. One of the worse is monotheism because it teaches it's members to be bigoted and intolerant of all other belief systems. This then leads to war. Which of course leads to more members in the theism. If you notice your religion's expansion going hand in hand with war, then, you may want to pull your head out and realize it's expanding in influence due to insecurity perpetuated by war.
I don't think its tenable to discuss countries as theist or atheist -perhaps one can take the view of the ideologies of dominant political interests (secularism, capitalist, communist, etc), but it stretches it a bit to tar the entire population into theistic or atheistic camps.
a similar idea (ie ideal atheism) was prominent circa 18th/19th century.
Events of the 20th century give cause for recourse however .....
Huh?
You already opened up with a magnificent hope for the future.
actually what perpetuates insecurity is a sort of attitude to dominate in politics (such as to open with the assertion that the world should be atheist). You find classic examples of such going off the rails in leaders who have established ideologies in both atheism and theism. Trying to suggest otherwise is akin to calling upon brothers grim to establish historical incidence.
Sweden
The USA
Why are these two prosperous nations so radically different in terms of atheism?
Perhaps it is socialism that brings peace and tolerance to prosperous societies?
Although I am a pessimist by nature; I still believe that with good education based on humanism and pacifism; humans can bury this nasty mentality of us vs them .
I agree. Virus is probably a better analogy than bacteria.
But otherwise I think it's a good caricature - exaggerating but clearly identifiable.
They also say there are no atheists in foxholes. Sounds like an argument in favor of atheism to me.