mpc, do you have a job? If so what is it you do? I ask because I truly wonder how you function in the real world when you struggle with basic rationality, you are demonstrably dishonest and wilfully ignorant.
Aether Displacement
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How do you function in the real world when you are too ignorant to understand something as simple as gravity is force exerted by displaced aether toward matter?
Is that not a supposition?
There's no evidence that he does.
How do you function in the real world when you are too ignorant to understand something as simple as gravity is force exerted by displaced aether toward matter?
Pointless posts again? Really? Come on, you can be better than that.
Wow.
You've outdone yourself with that answer. How do you know that all of the water is displaced? Origin did not specify the volume or size of the container, did he? I took it to mean an arbitrarily large tank, myself...
Wow.
/staggers off in a stupefied haze
What happened to the water where the ball now exists? And what does it do to the water in the three dimensional space it now occupies?
How is all of the water not displaced?
When you throw a stone into the ocean where does the displacement of the water end?
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It was displaced.
Come again? There is no longer any water in the three dimensional space now occupied by the ball.mpc755 said:
Maybe we have a definitional problem here. Define all, please. As in, all of the water that the tank contained originally? All of the water that was occupying the volume now occupied by the beach ball? Some other "all"? What?mpc755 said:
Come again? There is no longer any water in the three dimensional space now occupied by the ball.
So, what happened to that water? Did it vanish? No, it now occupies a different region of three dimensional space. And what happened to the water that was in the this space? It was displaced.
When you throw a stone into the ocean where does the displacement of the water end?
Ummm... Yes. We agree. That would be why I said it was "displaced".
I'll go along, provincially, with your assertion that it doesn't end, it just becomes too small to measure.mpc755 said:
What you’re ignoring though, are the following questions...
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Right. So try again, please.mpc755 said:
Thanks...Randwolf said:
I can't help if you are too ignorant... end of story.
You got nothing, well less than nothing. You have basically a high school level, bong induced, hand waving, half assed, rumbling, bumbling, stumbling, illogical, ill-thought-out, nonevidenced, childish cat turd of an idea.
And a rather stinky one at that.
I have met your ilk before and I know your montra: knowledge, facts and reason be damned, I will never admit my own confusion!!!
You have a gallon of water in a closed tank in a container in space. It doesn't matter what size ball you place into the container all of the water in the container is displaced by the ball.
I have met your ilk before and I know you are too ignorant to understand the following.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect#Vacuum_energy
"a "field" in physics may be envisioned as if space were filled with interconnected vibrating balls and springs, and the strength of the field can be visualized as the displacement of a ball from its rest position"
A 'field' in physics is space filled with aether and the strength of the field is the displacement of the aether from its rest position.
The more mass of the matter which exists in a volume the less aether the volume contains the greater the displacement of the aether from its rest position the greater the force exerted toward the matter by the displaced aether.
The greater the displacement of the aether from its rest position the greater the force exerted by the displaced aether toward the matter the greater the gravitational force.
Gravity is the force displaced aether exerts toward matter.
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If it is a closed tank and full of water, you can't put the ball into the tank. Water cannot be compressed enough to allow the ball to be put into the same closed container.
Water is not a good analogy for your purposes. Use helium or hydrogen or some other gas, even plain air.
Water is actually a better analogy. I didn't think anyone would actually get to this point but the container must be able to expand in the analogy. Now, if all that exists in the universe is the water and the ball then everywhere the ball moves it displaces the water. Everywhere the ball had been fills-in with water. In this scenario, there is no space, nor any part of three dimensional space devoid of both the water and the ball. In this gedanken, water exists everywhere the ball does not. The ball does not leave an empty void in its wake. This means the water exerts force toward the ball.
Now, replace the ball with particles of matter and the water with aether and you have the following.
Gravity is the force displaced aether exerts toward matter.
A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave.
Curved spacetime is displaced aether.
True. However, I believe it was origin's intent to allow space for displacement - think air pocket of sufficient volume at the top with a relief valve or similar arrangement.
Aether and matter have mass. As far as we know, there is no space, nor any part of three dimensional space, devoid of both aether and matter. As far as we know, there is no space, nor any part of three dimensional space, devoid of mass.
Aether exists where particles of matter do not. Aether is physically displaced by matter.
Gravity is force exerted by displaced aether toward matter.
A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave.
Curved spacetime is displaced aether.
As far as who knows? I certainly don't know any such thing and I don't believe you know one way or the other, either. Mainstream physics does not purport to know this...
Proof? You're right back where you started now - guess you will leave in the same condition that you arrived.mpc755 said:
Yeah, I got that somewhere amongst the first 30 times you posted it.mpc755 said:
How about:
Can you admit to this slight error? If not, we’re done…Randwolf said:
Mainstream physics has never been more incorrect in terms of understanding what occurs physically in nature. Mainstream physics is more incorrect today then when we believed the Earth was stationary.
You have a closed expandable container completely full of water. It doesn't matter what size ball you place into the container, all of the water in the container is displaced.
Good.