ADHD Advice needed!

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lucifers angel

same shit, differant day!!
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Has you are aware i have a son with severe ADHD, and i need advice, today on the way to school he attacked me, he kicked me, bit me, scramed me, spat at me, all while others mothers were watching!

Now my question is, i did what some of you said to do, and that was to slap him, i have even banned him of his favourate toys and video games, now has i dropped him of to school, the teachers took one look at him and said that i had to take him home again, so now i have an extreemly hyperactive child at home, smashing everything, like i said i have tried smacking, didnt work, i have taken his games stuff of him, not worked, what else now? all you people out there who say "A good smack will do him good, and a good smack is what bad kids need " this is proof that it doesn't always work so what now people anymore good advice on how to manage this situation?

(right now i love my son but hate him at the same time)
 
Don't give him sweet's, fizzy pop,anything with blue food colouring,certain flavourings,sugary foods..

"Conventional treatment options typically involve behaviour therapy and/or medication. The best results we’ve seen in helping those with ADHD/hyperactivity are achieved by investigating a number of possible avenues. These include:

• Blood sugar problems
• Essential fat deficiencies
• Vitamin and mineral deficiencies
• Pyroluria and the need for vitamin B6 and zinc
• Food allergies
http://www.foodforthebrain.org/content.asp?id_Content=1631
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http://school.familyeducation.com/add-and-adhd/nutrition-and-diet/42770.html

"One of the additives, sodium benzoate, has been linked to cell damage in a previous study, and to an increased for cancer. Sodium benzoate is found in Coca-Cola, Pepsi Max and Diet Pepsi, and in many fruit drinks.

Other additives assessed in the study include a number of colorings - sunset yellow (E110), found in fruity drinks; carmoisine (E122), a red coloring often added to jams; ponceau 4R (E124), a red food coloring; tartrazine (E102), found in lollipops and carbonated drinks; quinoline yellow (E104), a food coloring; and allura red AC (E129), and orange-red food dye."
http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2007/09/30/food-additives-adhd/
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I know the food aspect is not a cure all or a clarified root of the problem, but by most accounts it seems to have some positive effects on the sufferer......I checked a few sites and a reccomendation was to cut it all out entirely for 2 weeks then slowly re-introduce any 'treat foods' you have avoided....I would make a list of what to avoid and take it with you next time you go food shopping and check the labels on all the foods you buy, don't presume that if its healthy its ok yoghurt can have as much sugar as ice cream abd products which claim to be low in sugars etc.. can be misleading i.e. A litre of pop may advertise low sugar but its quoted amount may only be for 100ml...
Make your own chicken nuggets/fishcakes/burgers etc once a week for the week and avoid all additives all together
 
Definately food is critical. Try and calm him, maybe he was having a real bad day but soothe him with your voice or sing to him. Good Luck.
 
i know this may sound exstreem but as i have suggested before diazampram may help to calm him in situations like this

Its not a good solution, infact its not a solution at all but in the short term it may help
 
Asguard said:
i know this may sound exstreem but as i have suggested before diazampram may help to calm him in situations like this

Its not a good solution, infact its not a solution at all but in the short term it may help
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thanks asaurd for the sugestion, but he's just 8yrs old, i don't want to put him on drugs like that unless i have no other option,

for the other sugestions, keep him of fizzy drinks, i do that already, he doesnt drink coca cola, pepsi, or have smarties, skittles or anything with high food clourings in them,

but i havn't tried the singing, but i'll defianlty give it a go, thanks all for the sugestions
 
The only thing(s) I can think of

(Note on Edit: Well, it seems I'm rather late to it.)

Just out of curiosity, what are you feeding him?

The reason I ask is because somewhere out there—I couldn't find it if I tried, it was probably ten years ago—was a study about diet and ADD. The basic theme of the study was that simple carbohydrates had to go.

Now, this isn't the healthiest thing, because there are simple carbohydrates in fruits, but I think the primary concern was about the amount of simple sugar in processed foods. One of the things they did for the study was replace breakfast cereal and orange juice with bacon, eggs, potatoes, and milk. And that's pretty much the way the diet went. It doesn't sound the healthiest on the surface, but when the simple sugars were replaced with starches and such, there was an almost immediate appreciable change of behavior. It didn't solve the problem, obviously, and stuffing a kid with bacon, eggs, fried potatoes, and the like, invites other health considerations, but it's something. It's a start.

But that was, literally, like ten years ago. More recently, NPR reported last year on a British study published in Lancet suggesting that food additives, including preservatives and certain food dyes may augment hyperactivity.

So my advice—and understanding that I am thoroughly unqualified to give it—is to jack his proteins and starches, cut as close to zero as you can manage his intake of simple sugars, and let's see if anyone can find the Lancet study ... oh, well, shit. Click here for the PDF. Anyway, see if you can make heads or tails of that. Most obviously, though, get a physician's advice on these points.

My other advice would get you arrested and your children taken away: Stone him. Get him good and f@cking irie. Melt his ass into the sofa and see how much it takes before the motivational collapse defeats the hyperactivity. Then scale back and see if you can find the line. But that should probably be an absolute last resort, when the only other option you can figure is to literally beat the hell out of him. But, yeah, get him high and crank up SFA's Phantom Power, or Massive Attack's Mezzanine, or something like that. Take his brain to another place entirely. Slow-cycle indoor Christmas lights, maybe some incense. Alter his overstimulation, absorb him in it. No promises on that method, except perhaps that, save for the legal repercussions, it's less harmful than violence.
 
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I have ADHD... I struggled at school.. simply because of the traditional method of teaching did not suite my personality type.

I was getting into a lot of trouble, and my grades where suffering. So I got onto a Ritalin course and I went from a D student to an A student in 3 months.

60% of kids are now carrying ADHD through to their adult hood. I am one of those, and I am thankful that Ritalin helps me perform with excellence at work.

Seriously.. if he has real ADHD.. Ritalin works.
 
Tiassa said:
(Note on Edit: Well, it seems I'm rather late to it.)

Just out of curiosity, what are you feeding him?

The reason I ask is because somewhere out there—I couldn't find it if I tried, it was probably ten years ago—was a study about diet and ADD. The basic theme of the study was that simple carbohydrates had to go.

Now, this isn't the healthiest thing, because there are simple carbohydrates in fruits, but I think the primary concern was about the amount of simple sugar in processed foods. One of the things they did for the study was replace breakfast cereal and orange juice with bacon, eggs, potatoes, and milk. And that's pretty much the way the diet went. It doesn't sound the healthiest on the surface, but when the simple sugars were replaced with starches and such, there was an almost immediate appreciable change of behavior. It didn't solve the problem, obviously, and stuffing a kid with bacon, eggs, fried potatoes, and the like, invites other health considerations, but it's something. It's a start.

But that was, literally, like ten years ago. More recently, NPR reported last year on a British study published in Lancet suggesting that food additives, including preservatives and certain food dyes may augment hyperactivity.

So my advice—and understanding that I am thoroughly unqualified to give it—is to jack his proteins and starches, cut as close to zero as you can manage his intake of simple sugars, and let's see if anyone can find the Lancet study ... oh, well, shit. Click here for the PDF. Anyway, see if you can make heads or tails of that. Most obviously, though, get a physician's advice on these points.

My other advice would get you arrested and your children taken away: Stone him. Get him good and f@cking irie. Melt his ass into the sofa and see how much it takes before the motivational collapse defeats the hyperactivity. Then scale back and see if you can find the line. But that should probably be an absolute last resort, when the only other option you can figure is to literally beat the hell out of him. But, yeah, get him high and crank up SFA's Phantom Power, or Massive Attack's Mezzanine, or something like that. Take his brain to another place entirely. Slow-cycle indoor Christmas lights, maybe some incense. Alter his overstimulation, absorb him in it. No promises on that method, except perhaps that, save for the legal repercussions, it's less harmful than violence.
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what am i feeding him?

i make lots of soups, salads, fresh chicken pieces (never frozen), his dr said that pizza is ok, so he has that cold, we don't buy pre packed food, we like to know what is going into our food, fresh fruit is always avaliable, i give him sweets but only when he hasn't had some for a while, he doesnt watch violent films anymore, he used to share a room with his older brother who is 16 and watched violent films, and now he has his own room,

i try to keep sugar to a minumum obviously you cannot cut it out of the diets totally but i dont go out of my way to give him sugar.
 
w1z4rd said:
I have ADHD... I struggled at school.. simply because of the traditional method of teaching did not suite my personality type.

I was getting into a lot of trouble, and my grades where suffering. So I got onto a Ritalin course and I went from a D student to an A student in 3 months.

60% of kids are now carrying ADHD through to their adult hood. I am one of those, and I am thankful that Ritalin helps me perform with excellence at work.

Seriously.. if he has real ADHD.. Ritalin works.
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yes he ahs REAL ADHD we have an emergency appointment to see his CAMHS (child adolescent mental health service) doctor on Monday afternoon, we are going to talk about chanigng his medications hopefully to somthing like ritalin, we have him at the moment on , Straterra and Equasym which doesnt seem to help all that much anymore, and also melatonin at night time to help him sleep which DOES NOT work.

I appreciate every child differs from the next but my older son was on Ritalin and he was sick because of it, so until now we didnt think about it for my youngest!
 
Yeah, Ritalin is heavy on the body.. no doubt about it... especially those powder pills. I take Ritalin LA.. and have found them much more effective and easier on the body.
 
w1z4rd said:
Yeah, Ritalin is heavy on the body.. no doubt about it... especially those powder pills. I take Ritalin LA.. and have found them much more effective and easier on the body.
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well its somthing worth talking to his consultant about anyway!

if he decideds that Ritalin is the way to go then we'll go that way, but until then i am not able to change his medications without him!
 
Yeah, that sounds sound :p.

Also, what works for one person doesnt work for everyone. I can only tell ya what worked for me. Hope it works out for you.. I know how frustrating it can be.
 
w1z4rd said:
Yeah, that sounds sound :p.

Also, what works for one person doesnt work for everyone. I can only tell ya what worked for me. Hope it works out for you.. I know how frustrating it can be.
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Thanks, i just hope that the consultant will actually listen to me this time,
 
lucifers angel said:
Has you are aware i have a son with severe ADHD, and i need advice, today on the way to school he attacked me, he kicked me, bit me, scramed me, spat at me, all while others mothers were watching!

Now my question is, i did what some of you said to do, and that was to slap him, i have even banned him of his favourate toys and video games, now has i dropped him of to school, the teachers took one look at him and said that i had to take him home again, so now i have an extreemly hyperactive child at home, smashing everything, like i said i have tried smacking, didnt work, i have taken his games stuff of him, not worked, what else now? all you people out there who say "A good smack will do him good, and a good smack is what bad kids need " this is proof that it doesn't always work so what now people anymore good advice on how to manage this situation?

(right now i love my son but hate him at the same time)
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Well..... there are two kinds of ADHD, one is a genetic disorder the other is the direct couse of bad parenting.

What We as parents must allways keep in mind is that our children needs boundaries!!!
We have to give them boundaries so that they can grow in a positive way whit in those boundaries.
What we also have to do is to keep showing them that we are the ones that make the rules, NOT them!

By telling the child that he is about to break the boundaries, and when he does break it, you must be the one in control and give him a "timeout".
This is best done in a place where there is not much to do. ex. an empty room.
You follow him to the room and wait outside it.
Start by giving him 5 min. timeout, If he has not calmed down by then you tell him that he stays in there intill he is ready to behave..... and you stay there aswell, not to comfort him but to observ him.
Keep doing this with him every time he is about to, and breaks the boundaries.
You can over time step up the timeout 5, 10, 15, 20 and so on.
You have to do this, the child WILL act out on this, be sure of that.
But remember that this is a strucle of power, if he has not had any boundaries before then he has to get use to them.
children are NOT afraid to use tricks and they WILL use them ALL if necessary.
Be pressistent and you will get a well ajusted boy.
 
YinyangDK said:
Well..... there are two kinds of ADHD, one is a genetic disorder the other is the direct couse of bad parenting.

What We as parents must allways keep in mind is that our children needs boundaries!!!
We have to give them boundaries so that they can grow in a positive way whit in those boundaries.
What we also have to do is to keep showing them that we are the ones that make the rules, NOT them!

By telling the child that he is about to break the boundaries, and when he does break it, you must be the one in control and give him a "timeout".
This is best done in a place where there is not much to do. ex. an empty room.
You follow him to the room and wait outside it.
Start by giving him 5 min. timeout, If he has not calmed down by then you tell him that he stays in there intill he is ready to behave..... and you stay there aswell, not to comfort him but to observ him.
Keep doing this with him every time he is about to, and breaks the boundaries.
You can over time step up the timeout 5, 10, 15, 20 and so on.
You have to do this, the child WILL act out on this, be sure of that.
But remember that this is a strucle of power, if he has not had any boundaries before then he has to get use to them.
children are NOT afraid to use tricks and they WILL use them ALL if necessary.
Be pressistent and you will get a well ajusted boy.
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sorry everyone but..................utter bollocks, you ahve either got ADHD/ADD or you have not, your peranting skills dont enter into it, its NOT down to be a bad mum or dad, its a social disorder!!
 
Agreed. LA, he's talking shit. Punishing a kid because of a disorder he cannot help having is just abuse if you ask me.
 
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