Absolutely Nothing: Atheists on What They Know About What They Pretend to Discuss

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dumbest man on earth said:
This is a question for atheists at Sciforums: What do you actually know about the "gods" and religions you criticize and complain about?
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OK I'll bite
First
  • which gods are we talking about?
  • my gods, I have a disbelief in? or
  • gods of any religion, which religion tenets hold exist? BUT
  • each religions tenets hold ONLY their religion's god is the true god
Deal, in a very broad strokes my gods
  • what I know about my gods
  • I know I don't believe any exist
  • I know I have heard stories about them
  • I know I can recall some of the parts of some of the stories
  • I know there are lots, thousands of stories
  • I know many of them are much the same
  • I know don't believe any of the stories
That takes care of my gods. Now what do I know of the gods which religious tenets say exist
  • what I know about gods of religions
  • I know I don't believe any exist
  • I know I have heard stories about them
  • I know I can recall some of the parts of some of the stories
  • I know there are lots, thousands of stories
  • I know many of them are much the same
  • I know don't believe any of the stories
Well well look at that same same

Perhaps original post should provide some details about some god which stands outside of what the original post perceives (?) as lack of knowledge

Might I humbly suggest original post focus on the prime cause of atheists wrath against gods and religions?

They never come up with the goods, in this context goods equals EVIDENCE

And ever it is thus

Are you up and ready for the task ahead original post?

Provide evidence and you will have millions of tame atheists (well I doubt with evidence of god there will remain any atheists)

On your mark GO
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Michael 345 said:
Again I will bite

Inform us "we are smarter than you" Minions what you know

Thanks

:)
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I get the impression that religious folk think that if heathens knew the full story they would change their tune...I don't think they follow history much outside their religion ...where religion started and why, animal worship fertility worship Sun worship and how these evolved via astrology etc.

Heck most of them have no idea where Abraham got his stories from.

The subject is rather broad but I think it is reasonable to conclude astrology was a big thing, not like reading your stars in the newspaper, but to a degree a calender with the Sun the main player..then you get con men personifying the Sun thing..son of God..son of the Sun really, the 12 followers, death and resurrection all Sun tricks...but religious folk don't know, don't care...there were at least 15 astrology type Gods around the Mediterranean JC but one...and there is compelling evidence pointing to J C being just another backwoods cult that the Romans built upon for political motives and as they controlled the world in effect promoted christianity thru out the empire...I gloss over it but I ain't a teacher.. if there are any scholars worth their salt they would know exactly what I am talking about...all the scriptures need to be placed in the context of astrology Sun worship etc.

But there is no point trying to put any history in front of a creationist they just don't get it...they are simple folk and real learning is beyond them.

Alex
 
Xelasnave.1947 said:
I notice Jan is avoiding this thread I know it's nothing that I have said. He must be afraid that Paddo will bite him.
Alex
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Its a disappointing Atheist YEE-HAW.
Thinking back now, I shouldn’t have been so destructive of darwinism. I didn’t mean to dampen your spirits evolution .
 
Jan Ardena said:
Thinking back now, I shouldn’t have been so destructive of darwinism.
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You tries to break it and you paid for it with loss of dignity but don't worry it still works as good as it always has.

Seriously however ...the observation I made re super nova must mean you are forced to reject the Big Bang if you take Biblical Creation literally would you care to address that for the audience or add it as an unanswered question to the unanswered question list James started of which a great percentage remain unanswered by you...still working on your answers I expect.

Do you understand the significance of a super nova as it fits the history of our solar system?

Alex
 
Jan Ardena said:
Obviously. that is the prosses of life, which is already here. I was referring to the origin of life.”, as thought of by proponents of abiogenesis.
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James R said:
I thought we were discussing evolution. Abiogenesis is a different discussion.
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I must take the blame here in raising Abiogenesis. It was prompted by the lies, trolling and changing of definitions in the many fruitless attempts to denigerate Darwinism and evolution.
The point I was making was that at one time there was no life: then there was, as being evidence for Abiogenesis, despite not knowing the precise mechanism.

To give Jan some solace, unlike river who would go out of his way, spewing his pseudscience and nonsense about the forum, including the sciences section [of which he is now banned] Jan at least keeps his myths within the mythical section. Fact is though, he still needs to undergo scientific critique, when and where needed.
 
Jan Ardena said:
Do you accept the carbon dating of dinosaur soft tissue and bones of thousands of years as opposed to millions?
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I suspect you mean "radioisotope dating" rather than just carbon dating. But yes, you can radioisotope things from thousands to millions of years.
 
Write4U said:
I visualized it as a mega-nova! A single event where everything happened in the same place (singuarity) at the same time.
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The first stars were all huge short lived [10's of millions of years] behemoths, that formed approximately 4 to 5 hundred million years post BB.
 
paddoboy said:
The point I was making was that at one time there was no life: then there was, as being evidence for Abiogenesis, despite not knowing the precise mechanism.
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Clearly this was an General evolutionary process from pure chemical action and reaction to the formation of biochemical molecular patterns and the emergent potential for Darwinian evolution.
 
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paddoboy said:
The first stars were all huge short lived [10's of millions of years] behemoths, that formed approximately 4 to 5 hundred million years post BB.
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No doubt. The greater the overall chaotic event, the larger the resulting spontaneously emergent self-formation of large complex (unstable?) patterns.
And the original inflationary epoch @FTL suggests the absence of any mathematical/physical spatial restrictions for an instant and that "c" was a subsequent emergent restriction within the expanding spacetime medium and geometry.

I really like this concept of emergent potentials as a result of evolutionary processes and the formation of increasingly complex patterns. It just feels logical and natural.
 
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Write4U said:
I visualized it as a mega-nova! A single event where everything happened in the same place (singuarity) at the same time.
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I think the big bang deals with a single point that became our everything (our o servable universe) but there may have been many points outside our single point that went on to be parts of the universe outside our observable universe.
Without a super nova you can't make mud and or clay...so the problem the creation folk have is...God creates the stars but has to wait millions of years for the first super nova to form elements past hydrogen, helium and lithium so as to get material to form the solar system and the mythical mud that the mythical Adam was fashioned from. What a tangled web they weave to ignore the fact they were deceived.

So there is no inconsistency God time travelled forward to after a super nova got the mud and came back to fashion Adam.

So they just can't have a big bang.

How does it go..they are so far off the mark they arnt even wrong.

Alex
 
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