But he is prepared to add his two cents though.
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That is one of the few things you've ever said here that is valid.
That is based on the fact no evidence has ever been shown for God.
As a theist, you'd be lying if you claimed to know there was evidence.
The stupidity of that statement does not warrant comment.
There's no reason why they can't have something to do with atheism.
That would imply God's existence.
It's the other way round.
That was easy, your challenges are as weak as your arguments.
Sorry, but those terms are used widely by millions of people to describe your God.
That is merely one of several titles you've acquired here.
I will answer your questions.
That whole response from you was not in relation to any points I made.
I like your humour, but you could at least mix it up.
If God existed, you would expect to see the claims of God.
If you don’t accept them as claims, then you are effectively in denial.
God claims, via scripture, to be the origin of everything. The evidence would be “everything”? Does everything exist?
I didn’t make it up.
That is what we are discussing, if we are discussing God.
What would you regard as evidence for God?
If you deny the definition of God, then what are you talking about when you say there is no evidence for God?
Atheism is a symptom. It is what it says on the tin. Also theists can use science and logic to enhance their belief, the same way atheist can, for their lack of belief.
Of course.
Atheism itself implies God exists
Acceptance has to come first, for you to believe.
Non acceptance has to come first for you you to not believe.
You clearly show non acceptance.
Just look at your above response.
All you did was express denial.
I have already shown you one of your fabricated definitions, others of course relate to Darwinism, and the theory of evolution of life....Oh and be my guest on the report, as I previously mentioned, you appear rather desperate..remember that the aspro and a good lay down will do you the world of good.
Yeah!Nah!
as your report threat also shows.Not at all...I'm not the one promoting myth and fabricating definitions to suit an agenda. I'm sticking to facts, that is Darwinism and the theory of evolution are fact.
Alex is more polite then I, and suffers your incredible ignorance and pretentious delusions far better then I.
There is no evidence for such a myth.
It's morally wrong to play with young pliable minds...most may get over it and accept the reality...others never do, evidenced by you.
Hmmm, you havn't taken that aspro or the good lay down yet. Let me explain. Rain is scientifically explained as condensed water vapour that builds up eventually falling under the force of gravity. The Oceans are partly due to rain and much earlier in Earth's history, water that was delivered by asteroids, comets etc, in a solar system far more volatile then the present. Rivers of course simply drain the water from rain into the sea. All explained beautifully scientifically, without any need for some pretend, mythical entity.
Whatever delusions float your boat Jan.
ps: take that rest, I was trying to be of help.
That's OK, the aspro and good lay down advice was meant to help with your frustrations. Huh?? Wow!!!You mean the scriptures written in such an obscure manner, by obscure men, in an obscure age? Wow!!
YES YOU DID!!! Most certainly you did. You start out with an unsupported myth, and then draw positive conclusions, and you say you didn't fabricate it?I don't know, but I'm sure I would recognise it, if it was revealed. Being by definition though, unscientific, that won't happen.
More double Dutch that you have fabricated? Let me help you. god is defined as some supernatural entity, and science has shown the supernatural and paranormal to be simply delusional aspects of the human mind, fabricated to try and make sense of us, life in general and the universe, all having a "use by date" and then nothing, nada, zilch.
Wrong again, Atheists simply and correctly determine that we have no evidence for any god or deity.
You may need to report me again, because that silly statement is more of your fabricated definings of words to fit your agenda. Yep, more fabricated definitions by Jan.Do you know what a claim is? Do you think claims are evidence?
Scriptures are books, which are made up of pieces of paper with writing on them. FYI. They are not evidence of anything, just like any other book. Aside from that, there is no evidence God is the origin of anything other than delusion.
If someone claimed unicorns existed, I would want to see a unicorn, dead or alive. I think you can take it from there.
Definitions to words are not evidence, this has been explained to you umpteen times.
Yes, symptom of reality, reason and logic.
Another statement of sheer stupidity that does not warrant comment.
Wrong, evidence has to come first.
Wrong, the lack of evidence is the cause of non acceptance.
Lying doesn't help your argument.
No cracks. In fact he is correct. We have no evidence for anything supernatural, despite your own redefining fabricated definitions to suit your agenda.
Atheist simply recognise we have no evidence for any supernatural deity.
No, that's what science has determined.
Another example of redefining words. Again, Atheists recognise that we have no scientific evidence for any deity.
Science rejects the supernatural because we have no evidence of such. The definition of god is basically a supernatural being. I also reject Superman/Clark Kent, although I certainly enjoyed the Superman series of movies far more then that obscure book written in an obscure age, by obscure men.
That may or may not be so. ...like all blanket statements,
*shrug* I don't accept Santa Clause either because we have no scientific evidence for either.
Another example of your own fabrication of meanings to words. Let me help you again. My non acceptance of god is because we have no evidence for such a supernatural entity. If tomorrow a great thundering voice from the clouds told me I need to repent, otherwise I'll burn forever in the next life, I would probably get down on my knees and start praying...then again, I may go and get drunk instead!!
Xelasnave.1947
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Can anyone write a scripture?
After half a scotch I get some great inspiration and so why shouldn't I write them down and call it scripture. In fact when I finish the whole bottle I feel as if I am God and as feelings are to be trusted over reality, does that entitle me to claim similar stuff that we can find it scripture...
But no doubt as I did not live thousands of years ago anything that I may say is inspired could not be true ..and besides not being annonomous probably excludes me right there.
I think these scriptures from ancient times perhaps could be set aside or at least looked at as interesting but nevertheless not providing any insite into anything other than the workings of the minds of ancients when they were forced to drink wine because the water would kill you.
I don't know but does anyone think scriptures would be the first and only method a creator of a universe could come up with to communicate with humans?
And how do we explain the mistakes etc.
Alex
After half a scotch I get some great inspiration and so why shouldn't I write them down and call it scripture. In fact when I finish the whole bottle I feel as if I am God and as feelings are to be trusted over reality, does that entitle me to claim similar stuff that we can find it scripture...
But no doubt as I did not live thousands of years ago anything that I may say is inspired could not be true ..and besides not being annonomous probably excludes me right there.
I think these scriptures from ancient times perhaps could be set aside or at least looked at as interesting but nevertheless not providing any insite into anything other than the workings of the minds of ancients when they were forced to drink wine because the water would kill you.
I don't know but does anyone think scriptures would be the first and only method a creator of a universe could come up with to communicate with humans?
And how do we explain the mistakes etc.
Alex
Yes you are.
What do you regard as evidence for God.?
You avoided my question yet again.
Water is natural. According to your world view we are entirely natural. If we can be wrong, can water be wrong?
You’re lying.
You’re simply trying to trying to give the impression of being in the driving seat.
But you’re dodging questions.
What’s Ok?
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Avoiding questions again Paddoboy?
Can you respond to the points or questions?
Emojis can’t mask your frustration.
Just thought I’d throw that one out there.
Thanks for proving my point.
This is a pathetic response Paddo.
Your evading, and running, says more about you than your actual writing.
What are you before that determination?
I’ve already defined atheism.
That was in relation to Q’s response.
You should read stuff through, instead of filling your head with regurgitate materials.
Xelasnave.1947
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Watched some atheist experience or similar channel today and wouldn't you know it there is a Christian ringing up almost happy about the virus because it's forfilling biblical prophesy as to the end of the world.
At first you get a laugh but then it hits you...he is not the only one.
Did not say he believed in ID but I expect he would believe that rubbish.
Alex
At first you get a laugh but then it hits you...he is not the only one.
Did not say he believed in ID but I expect he would believe that rubbish.
Alex
Why do you regard ID as “rubbish”?
Xelasnave.1947
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Perhaps "rubbish" was uncalled for Jan.
I should not call an unsupported belief rubbish and keep such opinions to myself.
But I have said it and you have picked up on what I said.
I see it as a dishonest attempt by theists to introduce non science into schools in a most dishonest fashion.
Iders claim it should be taught as an alternative to evolution.
In science there is no alternatives... the best model wins ...that's it and if these folk were really scientists they would know that is how science works.
When asked could the designer be god they dishonestly say...we can't say that as that would be unscientific...well who then..really child like infantile fools.
What liars they are and like all liars they think they are so clever no one is on to them...but their arrogance brings them way down..they are child like thinking an adult can't see their lie.
They are fools who think their dishonesty will not be noticed..that is how silly they are.
How unscientific, how gullible how dishonest, how despicable ...
Now I am not directing this at you and it troubles me to be critical of something I suspect you may favour but if you align yourself with fools that is not for me to comment upon...but I will to a small degree.
I mean really Jan you seem reasonably intelligent but you place yourself in the same camp as the fool I mentioned in the first part of my post, .... you place yourself in the same camp as the fools talking in tounges, in the same camp as fools who think God sending folk to hell is in no way immoral, you put yourself in the same camp as folk who kill folk of a different religion because they are of a different religion...honestly I don't get how you do it and not see yourself for what you become by association. Oh I know you are spiritual, you are a theist and you dont like religion...you are so screwed up it is just plain sad.
Look at Jones Town, Waco Northern Ireland, look at how one group of Muslims kill the other group and vis versa...and then tell me..oh but I am not with them..you are with them I just wish you could see it.
As Bill Maher once said..if I see a thurd in the pool I would get out..but here you are swimming in a pool with more turds than be counted....and you just don't care one little bit all because you have a crazy delusion that came from Sun worship and astrology which you will not investigate because it may bust your bubble..it's sad it really is sad...and to think of the countless folk that are destroyed by the delusion is simply pitiful..people's opiate for sure..worse than herion.. .the destruction of wonderful humans is criminal, just criminal...
Anyways go swim in your filthy turd filled pool and don't stop for one moment to actually think about what you are doing...
Maybe address the main point of my post...another turd in the pool...as I said..on the show we have some Christian fool happy that biblical prophesy is coming to pass and the end of the world is near....moreover that the virus related deaths are because humans have rejected god and this is his punishment...and that these poor folk that have died deserve it..they deserve it..sick..simply sick..enjoy your swim....I joke about crushing you but it is being in the pool full of turds that will crush you...honestly if there was a creator do you really think he would set things up this way?.. wouldnt a creator just do just a little better?....and be careful with your reply or I may tell you what I really think.
Alex
Such delusional nonsense, fabricated with your arse to the wall!
Already answered, but what the heck, I'll play your silly little childish game......answered here.....
Again desperation time for our gullible friend, Answered as all your so called questions have been answered....answered here....You avoided my question yet again.
I will add to that though, many people [yourself included most probably] are put off and emotionally disturbed by the premise of dying and coming to the end of one's life, as being the absolute end...no more dreams, no more myths, no nothing, just plain old dead. They obviously [as you do] find comfort and solace in a big daddy in the sky and afterlife rewards.
Huh!!! You want to consider that aspro and a good lie down again, because You're not making any sense. Actually something stronger maybe called for.
Nup, all questions answered and answered truthfully, at least the ones that made sense!
Your situation with your back to the wall, needing to lie, fabricate and acting all round ignorant, to save whatever face you have left and please your overlords.
Not at all, but if I'm being too hard on you just let me know. You see I find your following as illogical a statement/question/scripture as any of your other illogical statements throughout this thread, that others have also queried you over.....
But perhaps its the back to the wall frustration that you are under, or perhaps English isn't your first language?
Answered a hundred times by most questioning your mythical nonsense. We have no scientific evidence for any magic spaghetti monster or whatever you chose to call your imaginary comfort friend.
Apologies If I have missed replying to anything Jan, its just that this forum, as is the case with other science forums, has seen the fabricated nonsense, the obtuseness, the dishonesty, the changing accepted definitions of words to suit your agenda, many, many times. It gets slightly boring you understand? and of course changes nothing, as you will find when you wake up in the morning.[/QUOTE]
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Xelasnave.1947
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And Jan think about the proposition in this video....watch it if you think you have no delusion...better still don't watch it it more for thinking atheists.
Alex
Alex
Because every example given so far has been rubbish.
Remember the banana example? Intelligently designed by God to be the perfect food! Look! It comes with a protective, non-slip surface to hold, which is also biodegradable and sits "gracefully" over the human hand. It is curved towards the face for ease of consumption. There is a "pull tab" at the "top" for easy access. It even has a simple color code to show ripeness: Green, too early. Yellow, just right. Black, too late.
Again, rubbish.
Write4U
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I may have found evidence for the existence of God!
Let’s hand it to Vicar Stephen Beach of St Budeaux Parish Church (part of the Church of England): He’s not holding services in-person, so like many of us, he’s trying to work from home.
Except he tried to deliver a sermon with candles nearby.
It was all going fine until… oh, you know how this ends.
“It’s a great thing to pause in the presence of God and to ask the question: Lord God, what are you saying to us?,” Beach said, warming to the theme.
“And then, of course, to wait for an answer. I’ve just been pausing between these…” he continues before realising his left shoulder has moved too close to the flame.
“Oh dear, I just caught on fire”, he exclaimed, batting and blowing out the flame. “Oh my word.”
Looks like God answered his question…
Beach is doing fine, thankfully. If anything, his popularity is on the rise.
Let’s hand it to Vicar Stephen Beach of St Budeaux Parish Church (part of the Church of England): He’s not holding services in-person, so like many of us, he’s trying to work from home.
Except he tried to deliver a sermon with candles nearby.
It was all going fine until… oh, you know how this ends.
“It’s a great thing to pause in the presence of God and to ask the question: Lord God, what are you saying to us?,” Beach said, warming to the theme.
“And then, of course, to wait for an answer. I’ve just been pausing between these…” he continues before realising his left shoulder has moved too close to the flame.
“Oh dear, I just caught on fire”, he exclaimed, batting and blowing out the flame. “Oh my word.”
Looks like God answered his question…
Beach is doing fine, thankfully. If anything, his popularity is on the rise.
“My family love it, and the youngest grandchildren want to know when Granddad is going to set himself on fire again,” Beach added.
Glad to see they know how to find humor during a sermon. That’s a good life skill.
(Thanks to @Charlesthornt
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What more evidence do we need?
Glad to see they know how to find humor during a sermon. That’s a good life skill.
(Thanks to @Charlesthornt
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What more evidence do we need?
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