A logical Republican

Athelwulf said:
Unions probably have low numbers because things are working.
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OK, the dreamfest has to stop right here. Read the link I provided earlier. That explains just how ineffective the meatpacking unions were. The average salasry went down from $20 an hour to $10 in the last 30 years, and we didn't even account for inflation.

Yeah. That stuff they wrote in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution is just hot air, right?
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This is a little offtopic, but if you think about the every man created equal stuff. That's why women and blacks were treated equal right after the Declaration. Oh, sorry, they weren't, my bad...


You wish to be immoral and get away with it.
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I am getting away with it. My hero is Dick Cheney. Come on, the guy shot his friend, and the friend had to apologize for it??? He keeps lying continuously, and W had to say he is just an optimist? He is my moral compass... :p
 
Athelwulf said:
You can switch from being an oil company to an ethanol company.
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In theory, it is not so bad idea. In reality it costs a lot of money. Until we still have oil I am not switching anywhere. Maybe in 30 years, or if I am forced....

Next topic?
 
All we have to do is just set up a meeting ya know! We can like build a fire, and like hug and stuff. We can just set up a meeting with Iran and North Korea. We can sit down and talk and everything will be great! I we need to be helping Iran with energy man. You know save the environment. We should be feeding the koreans. Its not their fault the US is threating them with its huge Military complex. There is no proof of Nukes. They are just scared. We need to reach out to them. We could feed all the people of the earth you know. We need to just get rid of the military! All that money wasted that could be used for food and medicine for the world! All our military does is cause death and destruction of poor innocent minorities. The rich of this country hate the poor! You see it everywhere! I mean if we didnt have a Navy to protect the corporate globalization enities of the rich then we could have true peace and let everyone help each other out. We live in a world of fear because of the neocons force us into war and make boogie men out of everyone! The Russians are peacefull. The Chinese love everyone. The North Koreans would never invade the south! Its only because we are building these huge death bombs that they are forced to build armies to protect themselves from the rich white people of America! I pray my brother in love that we just all sit down and make peace. There is no need for an American military! Once we get rid of the military and start taxing the rich at a 99% rate then we can have universal healthcare for all mankind. All people should have houses. All people should have highpaying Union jobs. Everyone with a highschool education should make at least $100,000 a year. Even if they are janitors. A janitor should make the same amount of money as a CEO. they say that CEOs and business owners create jobs so they should get more money- Ridiculous! Its the worker who allows them to have those companies! Without workers there would be no CEOs! Its time for workers around the world to throw off the chains of slavery and stand up for their rights to make a minimum of $100,000 a year! Tacobell can afford to pay workers $100,000 a year. They say they cannot afford it but we know that its not true. Lies spread by accountants so that the rich can avoid paying taxes and keep us enslaved! Rise up! Protest! Take our nation back and if we take the first steps to peace then all the world will follow!
 
Man, whatever you are drinking, please cut back on it!!!

Hey, I am on your side. Providing useful logical arguments, just in case you ever have to talk to a liberal, although you really shouldn't... :)
 
So no new topics? Well, I hope my Republican friends learnt the lesson, that yes, it IS possible to argue logically for your case, it just won't be very popular, because people can't handle the truth...

That's why they have religion, but hey I am getting offtopic...
 
Syzygys said:
So no new topics? Well, I hope my Republican friends learnt the lesson, that yes, it IS possible to argue logically for your case, it just won't be very popular, because people can't handle the truth...

That's why they have religion, but hey I am getting offtopic...
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Ditto.

It's interesting that you should mention that people can't handle the truth. That's probably why there aren't more liberals around.
 
Athelwulf said:
It's interesting that you should mention that people can't handle the truth. That's probably why there aren't more liberals around.
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Such arrogance. This thread is annoying. State your own opinions. Attempt to use some logic there. Don't attempt to state mine. If you see illogic in my posts/opinions, point it out. Don't create straw men and take bows as you destroy them.
 
crazy151drinker said:
All we have to do is just set up a meeting ya know! We can like build a fire, and like hug and stuff. We can just set up a meeting with Iran and North Korea. We can sit down and talk and everything will be great! I we need to be helping Iran with energy man. You know save the environment. We should be feeding the koreans. Its not their fault the US is threating them with its huge Military complex. There is no proof of Nukes. They are just scared. We need to reach out to them. We could feed all the people of the earth you know. We need to just get rid of the military! All that money wasted that could be used for food and medicine for the world! All our military does is cause death and destruction of poor innocent minorities. The rich of this country hate the poor! You see it everywhere! I mean if we didnt have a Navy to protect the corporate globalization enities of the rich then we could have true peace and let everyone help each other out. We live in a world of fear because of the neocons force us into war and make boogie men out of everyone! The Russians are peacefull. The Chinese love everyone. The North Koreans would never invade the south! Its only because we are building these huge death bombs that they are forced to build armies to protect themselves from the rich white people of America! I pray my brother in love that we just all sit down and make peace. There is no need for an American military! Once we get rid of the military and start taxing the rich at a 99% rate then we can have universal healthcare for all mankind. All people should have houses. All people should have highpaying Union jobs. Everyone with a highschool education should make at least $100,000 a year. Even if they are janitors. A janitor should make the same amount of money as a CEO. they say that CEOs and business owners create jobs so they should get more money- Ridiculous! Its the worker who allows them to have those companies! Without workers there would be no CEOs! Its time for workers around the world to throw off the chains of slavery and stand up for their rights to make a minimum of $100,000 a year! Tacobell can afford to pay workers $100,000 a year. They say they cannot afford it but we know that its not true. Lies spread by accountants so that the rich can avoid paying taxes and keep us enslaved! Rise up! Protest! Take our nation back and if we take the first steps to peace then all the world will follow!
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Diplomacy takes skill and brains. It's a uniquely human art employed over our history on this planet. Republicans don't have skill or neither are they cerebral, just reactionary.
All the current world problems could be solved or greatly diminished by diplomacy. You shouldn't be so frightened of the rest of the world. If the USA were being invaded then of course one doesn't negotiate, as Iraqis are expected to do, you fight to the last man. In imperial wars like Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, etc Man can use his skills, his brains and his courage and other elements that make us different than baboons, and end conflicts. Military might is always something championed by the weakest of minds, you are no exception.
 
Genji said:
Diplomacy takes skill and brains. It's a uniquely human art employed over our history on this planet. Republicans don't have skill or neither are they cerebral, just reactionary.
All the current world problems could be solved or greatly diminished by diplomacy.
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You disprove you're own hypothesis.

Instead of artfully engaging Republicans in skillfully brainy conversational give-and-take, your prefered method of diplomatically relating to people of differing self-interests is to insult and ridicule them for not being as skillful and brainy as you.

I'm not seeing anything uniquely artful in your approach, or your analysis.
 
madanthonywayne said:
If you see illogic in my posts/opinions, point it out.
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I would and will, but you haven't posted anything valuable in this thread.

For G-man: I can't see your posts because you are on Ignore, but I am sure they are dumb... :)

By the way Madanthony is heading into that direction too...
 
Syzygys said:
I would and will, but you haven't posted anything valuable in this thread.
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That's because I'm offended by this thread. I just pop in to bitch about it when I see it's bubbled up near the top of the list. I'm not that easy to offend, but something about this thread just pisses me off.
For G-man: I can't see your posts because you are on Ignore, but I am sure they are dumb... :)

By the way Madanthony is heading into that direction too...
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Oh no!:eek:
 
madanthonywayne said:
That's because I'm offended by this thread.
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Why don't you pick an issue, and we can try to debate about it? I think I dealt with 4 different topics, but you can pick a new one.

Of course you can be affraid of being proved wrong and illogical, but that is a chance that everbody has to take who tries to argue with me.... :)

Seriously, what is so offending about this thread? At least it is honest, not like most politicans or media....

Also, I did help you guys a lot providing good arguments against liberals. I never said they are going to be moral ones.... :eek:
 
OK, finally something good. Healthcare.

First let's think about this: Why the USA is the only one among the Western industrialized countries without universal healthcare? Surely, one of the richest country could efford it...
Well, we the rulers/corporations love to fuck the people in the ass, straight and square. Big pharma has one of the highest profitratio (close to 20%) among all businesses. Imagine the government trying to regulate them or making let's say the AIDS coctail cheaper!! Now why would we give government subsidized or free healthcare to people when we don't have to?

Since this is a pretty big and complicated issue, here is an article from Fox News non-less:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,188822,00.html

Hey here is a juicy tidbit from somewhere else:

"private insurance companies whose highest-paid CEO (at United Health) gets $122.7 million dollars a year - enough to cover the health care costs of roughly 34,000 American citizens."

Good analysis on the topic:

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/110705O.shtml

"America's health care system spends more, for worse results, than that of any other advanced country."

" Taiwan, which moved 10 years ago from a U.S.-style system to a Canadian-style single-payer system, offers an object lesson in the economic advantages of universal coverage. In 1995 less than 60 percent of Taiwan's residents had health insurance; by 2001 the number was 97 percent. Yet according to a careful study published in Health Affairs two years ago, this huge expansion in coverage came virtually free: it led to little if any increase in overall health care spending beyond normal growth due to rising population and incomes."

Draw your own conclusions...

P.S.: People are sheep, if you don't believe me, just check this out what we can get away with:

"The huge rise in military spending is paid for by a squeeze on domestic programmes, including $66bn in cuts over five years to Medicare, the healthcare scheme for the elderly, and $12bn from the Medicaid healthcare scheme for the poor."

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/020607N.shtml
 
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Syzygys said:
"The huge rise in military spending is paid for by a squeeze on domestic programmes, including $66bn in cuts over five years to Medicare, the healthcare scheme for the elderly, and $12bn from the Medicaid healthcare scheme for the poor."

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/020607N.shtml
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In the run-up to the invasion in 2003, the Pentagon's projected estimate of the total cost of the war was $50bn. A White House economic adviser, Lawrence Lindsey, was fired by President Bush when he suggested that the total cost would be $200bn.
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How silly of Lindsey!
 
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