9/11 was an inside job

[Kaiduorkhon]

ok. so someone already mentioned the moon landing, so i will talk about 9/11 instead. it was an inside job. according to zbignu brezenski, it is part of the u.s regime's desire to control central asia. it can be used as a training ground for terorists that will be sent into China, and Russia. Occupying central Asia will also block any attempts to link the east to the west with regards to railway, or pipelines. The main way that the u.s, and the west is able to stay on top is by preventing others from developing, rather than innovation, or ideas. physics experts, lets talk about how a steel building cannot melt in a few hours, and cause the building to collapse.

Apart from the controversy orbiting the physics of the collapsations themselves:

The political motivation(s) are in place and enormously applicable to what has openly emerged as Orwellian 'control of the most number of people for the longest period of time'. The Opening Post, above, attends to the remote subjects of Central Asia, China and Russia; while it may serve this Thread well to consider the obvious, non-speculative and immediate, post-9/11 changes on the domestic issues: The 'Homeland Security and Patriot Act(s)' abound with government controls and discrimination against entire categories of American citizens.

The Transportation Security Agency (TSA) alone is a federal triage of every individual air-traveling American citizen and all of the mainstream media published, widely known abuses of authority in the TSA sector.

There are schizoid - arguably over-compensatory - procedures favoring Islamic presence in America, while, for example, 'Returning American veterans' are specifically targeted by - former, resigned-under-heavy-fire - Secretary Janet Napolitano's Homeland Security Act. Ms. Napolitano is so-resigned, but her (Obama appointed) Homeland Security Act remains extant and ambitiously active.

The ostensibly (and conspicuously) rogue government continues to *aggressively indulge in the *unrestrained, futureless 'immediate reward in the immediate moment': all the while practicing and paying much salesmanship and homage to the Constitution-obliterating, anti-American *'New World Order (*"One leader. One government. One religion. One military. One FILL IN HERE; etcetera's") '.

*There is serious (exemplary) talk of further extending the federal funding of inspection, and employment of inspectors (who, so far, do not have police authority) of American citizen travel via rail and highway.

The 'question' of how any rogue element of the incumbent government would gain and/or has gained from 9/11, is not a question at all. The temerity of ongoing, hitherto non-existent government control is here and now, without any light at the end of the future-projected tunnel. To at least 'suspect' a motive - and a not-so-well-hidden planned-objective agenda - for the installation of a New World Order, is inevitable.

 

[psikeyhackr]

I just recently looked up how many people were supposed to be on flight 77.

64 people, 5 of which were crew. How many passenger seats were in the plane? Somewhere from 180 to 230 depending on the exact configuration of the aircradt. So three times as many seats as passengers.

Have you seen any pictures of empty seats from an airliner at the Pentagon. They came in modular sets of three. Much easier to find than DNA.

psik

 

[GeoffP]

I just recently looked up how many people were supposed to be on flight 77.

64 people, 5 of which were crew. How many passenger seats were in the plane? Somewhere from 180 to 230 depending on the exact configuration of the aircradt. So three times as many seats as passengers.

Have you seen any pictures of empty seats from an airliner at the Pentagon. They came in modular sets of three. Much easier to find than DNA.

psik

Not sure what you're arguing here. Firstly, you should probably Google this - keeping in mind that the fire would have destroyed much of the seating apparatus. Secondly, why the seats specifically? There was a plethora of other plane parts found at the scene. Are you taking this up since the DNA gambit failed? If one were not to find seats, are you actually suggesting that they crashed an airliner into it from which they had pulled all the seats out first? Because everything else was there.

I was a medic in the military, and shortly after I ran into the building and started pulling people out. I spent the next two weeks pulling out bodies, out of the Pentagon ... Some of the bodies that we pulled out were still strapped into their ... airline seats.​

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/911_pentagon_eyewitnesses.html

"Firefighters Carlton Burkhammer and Brian Moravitz "spotted an intact seat from the plane's cockpit with a chunk of the floor still attached."

https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/pentagonattackpage2

Here's an interesting picture:

https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/PentagonMissileoverview-full.jpg

Huh.

I'd also like to know why you think a missile struck the Pentagon. You could have a conspiracy without this. Why the missile?

 

[psikeyhackr]

Not sure what you're arguing here. Firstly, you should probably Google this - keeping in mind that the fire would have destroyed much of the seating apparatus.

We are supposed to find DNA when fire could "destroy" the metal of seats through the whole length of the plane?

If there were seats then where are the pictures? If there are no pictures of seats then why are we supposed to BELIEVE it was an airliner?

We have two examples of airliners making holes 150 feet wide in a couple of buildings. Why didn't an airliner make a hole that wide at the Pentagon? And leave no seats to be photographed.

ROFLMAO

 

[GeoffP]

We are supposed to find DNA when fire could "destroy" the metal of seats through the whole length of the plane?

People splatter. Seats don't. But since you insist:

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/photos/humanremains.html

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/health-july-dec01-forensics/

http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/photos/#parts

You've really never seen photos of the human remains before?

Now, have you googled for the photos of the seats yet or not?

If there were seats then where are the pictures? If there are no pictures of seats then why are we supposed to BELIEVE it was an airliner?

Because of all the other pictures of airliner parts? :shrugs:

We have two examples of airliners making holes 150 feet wide in a couple of buildings. Why didn't an airliner make a hole that wide at the Pentagon?

Because the Pentagon has better structural integrity than a couple of high-rises?

Is that a turbofan part in front?

You still didn't answer my question:

I'd also like to know why you think a missile struck the Pentagon. You could have a conspiracy without this. Why the missile?

ROFLMAO

 

[GeoffP]

Actually, this is a really good summary of the enormous problems - most of them, anyway - with the 'NoPlaner' theory:

1) No missile was seen or heard by anyone. All eyewitnesses report a passenger jet crash.
2) No missile debris was found.
3) Missiles do not carry thousands of gallons of jet fuel, which caused massive fires.
4) Missiles do not carry the remains and personal belongings of flight 77 passengers and crew.
5) Missiles do not carry tons of 757 debris.
6) In the diagram below, the yellow dots indicate the broken light poles. The red line indicates the path a missile would have to take in order to knock them over, or the missile would have to have a wingspan of over 100 feet. The Tomahawk Cruise missile that Loose Change suggests hit the Pentagon has a wingspan of 8 feet 9 inches (2.67 m).

https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/pentagonattackpage2​

Sort of obvious, but bears repeating sometimes.

 

[psikeyhackr]

People splatter. Seats don't. But since you insist:

Exactly! That is why I want pictures of seats and don't care about bodies of people.

There were three times as many seats as people on the plane so why should there be any problem with providing lots of pictures of seats?

psik

 

[Grumpy]

psikeyhackr

There were three times as many seats as people on the plane so why should there be any problem with providing lots of pictures of seats?

Let's see, you want pictures of lots of intact seats from the same incident that left the landing gear in pieces? Are you really that thick or do you have a reason to act that way? Landing gear are made of forged pieces several inches thick, yet they were ripped apart. Seats are made from aluminum sheets and tubing about 1/10th of an inch thick(or less)that easily melts in a kerosene fueled firestorm like this...

Are you starting to see just how idiotic this whole thing has become?

Body parts recovered inside the Pentagon. That is a seat bottom next to the tarp. That is puddled, melted aluminum, from some source. Note that this is a forensic photo taken at the time of the body's recovery. I doubt any of the seats came in larger chunks.

Main landing gear pieces.

What will it take for you to be able to pull your head out of your fundament? We were attacked on 911 by people who came from Saudi Arabia, not by our own government.

Grumpy

 

[GeoffP]

Exactly! That is why I want pictures of seats and don't care about bodies of people.

There were three times as many seats as people on the plane so why should there be any problem with providing lots of pictures of seats?

psik

Were any pictures taken of seats? If not, then your theory doesn't work: are you insinuating that they threw bodies on an otherwise normal 767 but decided to take the seats out because... what? Seats are too expensive?

Now, your next step - your very next step - is to scan my above posts and answer my questions. If not, I am forced to conclude that you do in fact agree with me that a plane, not a missile, struck the Pentagon, that there were no mysterious issues with lightpoles at the Pentagon, and that the impact site does indeed represent the imprint of an aircraft, in line with the first point. In which case one would wonder what the conspiracy is meant to be.

 

[GeoffP]

Body parts recovered inside the Pentagon. That is a seat bottom next to the tarp. That is puddled, melted aluminum, from some source. Note that this is a forensic photo taken at the time of the body's recovery. I doubt any of the seats came in larger chunks.

Ah, didn't even notice that. Yep, that's pretty much put the kibosh on this new line of desperation.

Perhaps next psykey will demand that someone show him images of flotation devices or airline stewardess call buttons. We could go through each sub-element of the debris, one unit at a time.

 

[FatFreddy]

Body parts and plane parts are plantable. There's an explanation for the body parts and passengers at the 44:00 time mark of this video.

9/11 - Painful Deceptions - (Full Length).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5wkyEDIxTk


This video proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that 9/11 was an inside job.

September 11 -- The New Pearl Harbor (FULL)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DOnAn_PX6M


This video does a good job of explaining the government's motives for planning and carrying out the 9/11 attacks.
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/new-american-century/

 

[paddoboy]

Ah, didn't even notice that. Yep, that's pretty much put the kibosh on this new line of desperation.

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No it wont...You fail to realize the desperation, and sick fanaticism of the utter goofballs that push this sort of nonsense.

 

[paddoboy]

Body parts and plane parts are plantable. There's an explanation for the body parts and passengers at the 44:00 time mark of this video.

:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:


:crazy:

 

[Stryder]

Body parts and plane parts are plantable. There's an explanation for the body parts and passengers at the 44:00 time mark of this video.

I would query who planted the notions of a conspiracy in peoples heads. I mean we could turn around and blame the Zeebox of planet Vulm for mind controlling you into your belief.... want proof... there's enough online.... (its the same argument/proof as conspiracy theorists)

 

[Grumpy]

FatFreddy

Body parts and plane parts are plantable.

So there is no bottom to the depths you're willing to go to to deny the simple reality that everything at the Pentagon is explained by the aircraft impact, no further complications needed. Make sure you never say something like that within the hearing of any of the people who had to remove those bodies, it would be justifiable homicide, a result of terminal stupidity.

Grumpy

 

[MacGyver1968]

I wish the Government would plant some beer in my fridge.

 

[Aqueous Id]

I wish the Government would plant some beer in my fridge.

Maybe take the tax credit for ethanol and drink the difference?

 

[David C]

Body parts and plane parts are plantable.

Not as easy as idiotic conspiracy theories.

There's an explanation for the body parts and passengers at the 44:00 time mark of this video.

No, really there isn't. We already know the explanation, a plane hit the pentagon with 64 passengers on board.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_77

9/11 - Painful Deceptions

You said it. The mental gymnastics required by trufers to complete their impossible conspiracy is painful and always deceptive.

This video proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that 9/11 was an inside job.

No it doesn't. It proves beyond a shadow of a doubt how gullible people like you are!

This video does a good job of explaining the government's motives for planning and carrying out the 9/11 attacks.

That could just as easily be done by allowing* 19 hijackers to do it, rather than the truly mental and ridiculously unfeasible suggestions by trufers.



* which I also don't believe

 

[GeoffP]

I wish the Government would plant some beer in my fridge.

We did.

Then we took it back! Ha ha!

 

[roscoe]

Body parts and plane parts are plantable. There's an explanation for the body parts and passengers at the 44:00 time mark of this video.

9/11 - Painful Deceptions - (Full Length).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5wkyEDIxTk


This video proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that 9/11 was an inside job.

September 11 -- The New Pearl Harbor (FULL)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DOnAn_PX6M


This video does a good job of explaining the government's motives for planning and carrying out the 9/11 attacks.
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/new-american-century/

All worth watching.

As are these

http://www.tubechop.com/watch/2087378

AND THE CONFIRMATION HERE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc23nPsmP_Q

American Airlines Flight 77 never hit the Pentagon. Proof given upon request.

And no I don't know what happened to the passengers assuming there were any passengers.

Need a NEW INQUIRY. Anybody got a problem with that?