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[WillNever]

They don't live in a democracy, they live in a very corrupt crony state.

Right -- but they built that state. China as a nation is one of the most ancient in the world. They have always ruled oppressively and with violence and to this day, the people appear to be complacent to their environment. Therefore, we can reasonably assume that the majority of people of China are generally okay with the way things are run in their country.

What you're doing is what every racist does-reducing a multi-dimensional people (and in this case, multi-cultural also) to a gross oversimplification to fit his or her prejudice.
You would not like it if someone said "All Americans are stupid imperialist thugs."
You're doing the equivalent, it's not ok.

China is not multi-cultural. In fact, it is one of the most ethnically homogenous countries in the world, dominated by the "Han Chinese" who descend way back to the ancient (we're talking BC) Han Dynasty. Roughly 92% of China is composed of this one giant ethnic group, with just a smattering of different minorities making up the remaining 8%. It has been thought that their ethnic homogeneity is responsible for a lot of the ethnocentrism and racism that the Chinese harbor toward other cultures and nationalities. Earlier in this thread I made a statement angered some people:

When a nation of people grows up looking the same and being trained to think and act the same, it's easy to imagine why their sense of individuality and conscience becomes rather muted within their psyche.

It is my belief that the Chinese lack the sense of unique purpose that the rest of us normal people are driven by, and that is because they have been trained into having an "anthill mentality."

source:
http://www.stats.gov.cn/english/newsandcomingevents/t20110428_402722244.htm

 

[birch]

You guys want to ban Willnever, but at least he explains his prejudices . He is not saying their race is at fault merely their culture. And if he is wrong, that is justification enough to ban? Fuck you guys, you are the fucking NAZIs.

There is a serious shortage of contentious opinions on this board, you guys wonder why it is so fucking dead...because all the calamity is gaged or ostracized. On extreme rare occasion, does anyone actually defeat someone here through proper discourse.

Basically you ban happy pricks are lazy.

lol. he doesn't explain his prejudices. he just plays both sides to appear he is legitmate when in reality he is prejudiced against anything asian when it comes up. for instance, his mention of the prejudice against other asian ethnicities by the chinese is mentioned for his agenda basically to seem legit, not because he actually gives a shit since he believes they are subhuman as well. i thought you were more intelligent but evidently not. lmao

i personally don't think he has to be banned. his so-called reasons can easily be squashed for the bullshit it is. lmao

It is my belief that the Chinese lack the sense of unique purpose that the rest of us normal people are driven by, and that is because they have been trained into having an "anthill mentality."

lmao. like this stupidity. every society basically has an anthill mentality or system/heirarchy.

 

[WillNever]

You guys want to ban Willnever, but at least he explains his prejudices . He is not saying their race is at fault merely their culture. And if he is wrong, that is justification enough to ban? Fuck you guys, you are the fucking NAZIs.

Thanks for your support. Indeed, I have no problem with American-born descendants of the Chinese. They have a different set of attitudes and beliefs, and they have adopted our culture instead of embracing one of brutality.

I take no issue with Chinese-Americans, yet they are what sociology-oriented types would consider the same physical race as those born and raised in China, at least for those who think of people in terms of race -- such as James R, quadrafonics, Hercule.

That is why any accusation of racism toward me is rather flawed. If this were an issue of race, I would be grouping Chinese Americans with the citizens of China, which hasn't happened here.

lmao. like this stupidity. every society basically has an anthill mentality or system/heirarchy.

Nah, just yours. Are you done pretending that you aren't asian or descended from such? We've been down this road before, and you always take personal offense at any remarks directed at an asian culture, which might be interpreted as disparaging.

 

[chimpkin]

You guys want to ban Willnever, but at least he explains his prejudices .
Basically you ban happy pricks are lazy.

Prejudice is lazy. It oversimplifies. It selectively edits information.

Confirmation bias (also called confirmatory bias or myside bias) is a tendency for people to favor information that confirms their preconceptions or hypotheses regardless of whether the information is true.[Note 1][1] As a result, people gather evidence and recall information from memory selectively, and interpret it in a biased way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

Will only pays attention to the ugly stuff about the Chinese; it confirms his bias.

This is a hypothetically science-based website, and he refuses to look at his beliefs dispassionately.
It's not laziness to get fed up with someone's illogical nonsense that they refuse to examine or moderate, and repeat over and over, ad nauseam.

 

[quadraphonics]

He is not saying their race is at fault merely their culture.

Distinction without a difference?

Even if not, is it somehow more defensible to traffic in "cultural" bigotry rather than "racial" bigotry?

And if he is wrong, that is justification enough to ban?

The basic fact that his posts are full of inflammatory hate speech is justification enough to ban him. He isn't adding anything defensible to the discourse here. He's just using it as a platform to spread hatred, intolerance and supremacist ideation.

There is a serious shortage of contentious opinions on this board,

We don't need nasty expressions of hate here or anywhere, regardless of how "contentious" they may be. I have no qualms with "groupthink" to the extent that such amounts to a prohibition on advocacy of hating people for their identity. Such a prohibition has been clearly stated in the rules for a long time now.

On extreme rare occasion, does anyone actually defeat someone here through proper discourse.

That's exactly because so many closed-minded propagandists show up for no reason other than to promote fixed, hateful agendas. You can't "defeat" someone through "proper discourse" in that situation. Open-minded people who happen to have an objectionable misconception or two are fine - those types are actually amenable to discourse. Racist ideologues are a different story entirely. They can't be convinced - they need to be silenced.

 

[quadraphonics]

I take no issue with Chinese-Americans, yet they are what sociology-oriented types would consider the same physical race as those born and raised in China, at least for those who think of people in terms of race -- such as James R, quadrafonics, Hercule.

Go take your cheap troll tactics somewhere else.

That is why any accusation of racism toward me is rather flawed.

No, that's why you deserve the additional accusation of being a cheap troll who cannot (and so, should not) be engaged in good faith.

If this were an issue of race, I would be grouping Chinese Americans with the citizens of China, which hasn't happened here.

The fact that you congratulate Chinese Americans for putatively abandoning their inferior original culture in favor of the superior American culture only heightens the accuracy of the charges of racism.

And also, the charge of stupidity: you really think it will impress anyone even if they agree that you're a cultural bigot instead of a racial bigot? Talk about nitpicking...

Nah, just yours. Are you done pretending that you aren't asian or descended from such? We've been down this road before, and you always take personal offense at any remarks directed at an asian culture, which might be interpreted as disparaging.

All disparaging remarks about any culture should be a cause of personal offense to any intelligent person with a conscience. They are manifestations of irrationality, fear and hatred, and so offenses against reason, peace and progress.

Furthermore, your crude race-baiting of birch is exactly the sort of trolling, racist misbehavior that should earn an immediate and severe sanction.