Are you for real? You know that the singers were Jewish? How do you know this? No, really: how do you know? Crystal ball? Did you even look at the link I posted? Will you go back and look at it now, or continue to feign ignorance of it? I'm right on my tippy-toes with the not knowing.
Wait a minute. Israeli commandoes storm aid ships carrying peace activists, and you're obsessed with anti-Jewish songs?
Songs that were apparently (according to you) sung as the Israeli commandoes threatened the flotilla and started jamming their communications..
You think that those songs were sung is more important than Israel's actions?
So if I am on a ship that is about to be stormed by Somali pirates and I start singing anti-Somali songs, it would justify being shot at?
What is more important Geoff? Songs being sung? Or up to 19 people dead and dozens of peace activists injured, some critically after their aid ships were stormed by armed men who came in shooting?
Let me put it this way Geoff.. The whole building is on fire and you're concerned that the candles are burning unattended in a burning room.
A sensible one? Councillor, are you familiar with the term premeditation?
Whose? The Israeli army as they started harassing the ships and jamming their communication, which is in and of itself, a violent act against ships they knew to be carrying aid and peace activists?
Again, you're telling me that a few songs justifies shooting up to 19 people dead and injuring dozens? You're telling me that a few songs justifies storming a ship full of peace activists and journalists, many of whom were women and children and opening fire?
And the vid links I posted just didn't register at all? You thought the Israeli commandos were rapelling into a garden party? You are unfamiliar with the term "mob"?
They were attacking the ship Geoff. Those passengers were acting lawfully in self defense. You forget that the Israeli commandoes were harassing and threatening them prior to that, stopping them from communicating with the outside world, which is aggressive in and of itself. Those passengers were doing what they had to do to defend themselves against armed aggressors who came in shooting after threatening and aggressively harrassing them. Or did that part escape you somewhat?
Interesting. Did you see guns blazing on the second link I posted? I didn't. (It's below.) It's night vision, I think; surely a blazing series of muzzle flashes should show up as a series of blazing muzzle flashes. Could you point out where that was? "A few iron sticks". My god.
My God indeed. Reporters were able to report, before all communication was lost, that the Israelis were shooting before they came on board. Since then, the world has been prevented from speaking to anyone they have detained, since you know, Israel has prevented outside communication with the journalists and observers who were on those ships. One can only await a full international inquiry into the events and eyewitnesses interviewed.
I'm sorry: did I say this? I think it's reasonable to inspect them, sure: but never you mind what I've said, Bells. Storytelling requires so much more.
Ah, I love your dishonesty. We talk about Israel storming aid ships and shooting peace activists and what do you say? 'But they were singing anti-Jewish songs'..
Wring those hands Geoff.
I think I'd hesitate in trying to yank them off their rappel lines and attack them the moment their boots hit the deck. Maybe that's not such a good idea, I'd probably say to myself. Then again, if I'd spend all day prior working myself up into a frothing hate, maybe I wouldn't. Maybe I'd only see red. Maybe I'd want to "martyr" myself, like the woman on the first vid I posted.
You have no proof that they spent the day building themselves into a frothing hatred. Your attempts to exaggerate is noted however, as is your continued attempts to justify this.
I love the stench of your dishonesty in the day.
But there seems to be a tiny discrepancy between the way you describe the fight first - "how could itty bitty malnourished Palestinian children hit people with bars made of soft, gentle iron?" - and how you describe it immediately after - "what would you do, cowardly Geoff, if Israeli hasbara commandos infected with rabies and spraying rotary cannons from each hand descended on your ship and started attacking you for no reason, after you tried to gently reason with them using soft iron bars and breakaway deck chairs"? Like Tiassa sometimes says: genuine is genuine. I've reposted my link so there can be no avoidance of what happened during the rappel in.
Where did I say that it was malnourished Palestinian children hitting the armed forces storming the flotilla ships with iron sticks? Can you point me to where? I never once said such a thing, so prove your claim that I did.
Your intellectual dishonesty does nothing but betray your pathetic attempts to justify this Geoff. Now, provide links that I have said what you have claimed. I detest liars Geoff. And at the moment, you are lying.
Feeble. Unlike anyone you know, I've actually been in dangerous occupations.
You know nothing about me Geoff. Then again, what we can see of you, a man who is desperately justifying the violence used against those passengers, going on and on about songs, who has in the past continuously joked about an attempted rape, for example.. Frankly, any dangerous occupation you may have had mean zip to be honest, because you portray yourself as an unfeeling and lying individual on this forum.
I shouldn't be surprised that this is your reaction to this. Sadly, for you, it is expected.
Normally I don't get into debates with people having a tenuous command of English. But you also don't understand context and premeditation. Which is kind of sad for a lawyer, I guess.
Ah, here we go.
Again, expected. What a sad little man you are.
Why don't you go on about the songs some more. You know, keep trying to justify this while denying you're not trying to justify this.
Aid ships, carrying aid and peace activists are boarded by armed commandoes who open fire and kill up to at least 19 people and injure dozens. Apparently singing some songs and trying to defend one's self with some iron sticks and plastic chairs against men carrying and shooting guns is a bad thing.. Your argument is laughable as it is pathetic.
