It shows his character, and it's not a coincidence that he used a gun both times. Technically, he wasn't convicted of murder, but I consider him to be a murderer.Agreed, but that's not the same as your previous claim. They are not synonymous.
It shows his character, and it's not a coincidence that he used a gun both times. Technically, he wasn't convicted of murder, but I consider him to be a murderer.Agreed, but that's not the same as your previous claim. They are not synonymous.
the black panthers may be rascist but they came about of cops refusing to help black victims like the sanford police department.
She left because he pulled a gun her. not because people are upset he got away with murder.
violant
lying about the dead to support there killers is a dick move
he made are world safer? lets see martin convictions never hurt anyone until a strange man killed him after starting a fight with him.
No you'd prefer to arguing pulling guns on people is a sign of good judgement.@ Pjdude,
I don't want to argue racism with someone who cannot even spell the word correctly but...
Um well you know other than the fact she said thats why she left.So now you are psychic and know why people do things? Would you stay with Zimmerman? Anybody with Zimmerman is in danger or you are an idiot to think otherwise.
yes I'm a shitty speller and my keyboards messed up so that means I am inherently mentally deficient. you got me.One of the reasons I think your spelling of racism is incorrect (it could be European). Your entire post shows you do not read enough to recognize correct spelling.
Zero evidence he actually bought a gun. zero evidence he was high when he was killed. again you just assumed negative qualities on to the dark skinned victim. all the while ignoring his killers long history of unprovoked violent behavior. You stated that martin was on drugs during the incident. and attacked zimmerman. one of those is a flat lie the other has zero evidence behind it other than zimmerman's word. and you really think zimmerman's continued violence and reckless use of fire arms vindicates you it just makes you look like an insensitive prick when you say its your "victory dance"What lie? He bought and sold guns, smoked drugs, and fought to the point a friend wanted Trayvon to teach him to fight. These are facts but that was established in other thread. This thread is just like a victory dance for me.
guess what kids get into fights. that doesn't mean they deserve to be hunted down and killed. I got into plenty of fights as a teenager do I deserve to be shotThe snitch Trayvon beat up might argue otherwise. I bet he is glad Trayvon Martin is not coming back for the rematch Trayvon wanted (LET ME GUESS. This is news to you.).
there wasn't any. you streching to defend a lose cannon.If Trayvons case had not been about denying all the evidence about Trayvons violent and criminal behavior, maybe they would have left some time to figure out why he was such a moron.
don't call me boy and before you lecture me on facts why don't you learn about the US justice system.Also learn your facts boy.
flat out lie. the police refused to investigate. the judge to my knowledge never commented on it and several members of the jury felt zimmermann deserved to go to jail but was saved by a law designed to allow people to murder others. Not guilty doesn't mean innocent. it means not guilty.Police, Judge, Jury, Justice System all believe Trayvon attacked Zimmerman (Stupid Moron).
maybe but that doesn't mean he was at fault. your racism is showing.Trayvon Martin was a stupid wannabe gangsta.
if you think he got justice you don't know what justice is.He got Justice.
yes I'm a shitty speller and my keyboards messed up so that means I am inherently mentally deficient. you got me.
You stated that martin was on drugs during the incident. and attacked zimmerman. one of those is a flat lie the other has zero evidence behind it other than zimmerman's word.
the police refused to investigate.
if you think he got justice you don't know what justice is.
@ pjdude
Exactly. I also agree poor spelling equals mental deficiencies. It is good you are aware of it.
What one is lie?
Did he have enough THC in his system to be high on drugs? Yes of course he did.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...in-had-marijuana-in-system-night-he-died.html
(see above link to get started on that reading.)
In Fact: It appears that Trayvon was out on a drug deal and not buying skittles.
Watch this video from the night he got himself killed. He was on a drug deal selling off his stash he discussed in his cellphone.
Look at his Drink/Skittles
COFCC.ORG -- We now know that Trayvon Martin had marijuana in his system, so George Zimmerman was correct when he suggested that Martin was high. We also now know that it wasn’t Ice Tea and skittles, but Arizona Watermelon juice and skittles. Both are ingredients in a drug cocktail used in the southern rap/hip-hop scene. Messages that Trayvon Martin posted on twitter suggest that he was abusing codeine in a concoction known as “lean,” “watermellon sizzurp,” “purple lean,” “purple sizzurp,” and other names. Other versions of the drink are made with Sprite.
Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c8c_1338159612#3DituYhDkpHlIUG0.99
He wanted "LEAN" ... Look at him Tweeting about DMX "CODINE" Drug below.
http://edge.liveleak.com/80281E/s/s...4db65f5 e99818badf934d40dad14929&ec_rate=230
SO MAYBE THE FACT THAT HE DIED STONED MAKES IT KIND OF TRUE THAT HE DIED STONED. DON'T TELL ME I FLAT OUT LIE JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO LAZY TO INFORM YOURSELF. TRY BING NEXT TIME.
Funny. I see videos from their investigation. They deemed Trayvon was a hoodlum attacking Zimmerman which is true.
I think the Gun dealing, Drug Dealing, violent man was dumb enough to bring his fists to a gun fight. You are probably too uninformed or naive to realize Trayvon Martin was dealing in illegal gun sales and this is one of the main reasons I disliked him. A dead gun dealer is a good gun dealer.
@ Everyone,
Are you smart enough to spot a drug deal?
Does not matter anyway. No need to worry about this guy anymore.
sp you disagree with me. and have decided to poersonally insult me because I disagree with your base slanders.Exactly. I also agree poor spelling equals mental deficiencies. It is good you are aware of it.
lie he had a little which doesn't come close to drug fueled.What one is lie?
Did he have enough THC in his system to be high on drugs? Yes of course he did.
Well except he didn't die stoned? so you were lying.In Fact: It appears that Trayvon was out on a drug deal and not buying skittles.
Watch this video from the night he got himself killed. He was on a drug deal selling off his stash he discussed in his cellphone.
Look at his Drink/Skittles
COFCC.ORG -- We now know that Trayvon Martin had marijuana in his system, so George Zimmerman was correct when he suggested that Martin was high. We also now know that it wasn’t Ice Tea and skittles, but Arizona Watermelon juice and skittles. Both are ingredients in a drug cocktail used in the southern rap/hip-hop scene. Messages that Trayvon Martin posted on twitter suggest that he was abusing codeine in a concoction known as “lean,” “watermellon sizzurp,” “purple lean,” “purple sizzurp,” and other names. Other versions of the drink are made with Sprite.
Read more at http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c8c_1338159612#3DituYhDkpHlIUG0.99
He wanted "LEAN" ... Look at him Tweeting about DMX "CODINE" Drug below.
http://edge.liveleak.com/80281E/s/s...4db65f5 e99818badf934d40dad14929&ec_rate=230
SO MAYBE THE FACT THAT HE DIED STONED MAKES IT KIND OF TRUE THAT HE DIED STONED. DON'T TELL ME I FLAT OUT LIE JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE TOO LAZY TO INFORM YOURSELF. TRY BING NEXT TIME.
only to racist believing a racist police department. there was no investigation by the police. Martin being involved in a doesn't mean he started it. given zimmerman's history of well lying and starting fights and pulling guns on people for no reason his account isn't credible.Funny. I see videos from their investigation. They deemed Trayvon was a hoodlum attacking Zimmerman which is true.
all of that is circumstantal at best. and you support zimmerman who is a wife beater and killer so spare me the false sincerity, you disliked martin cause he was black. your right no need to worry bout a kid. how ever we need to worry about the thug who killed him and the thugs whoi defend that man.I think the Gun dealing, Drug Dealing, violent man was dumb enough to bring his fists to a gun fight. You are probably too uninformed or naive to realize Trayvon Martin was dealing in illegal gun sales and this is one of the main reasons I disliked him.
all of that is circumstantal at best.
Trayvon: I gotta bill right na for sum fire
read: You want a 22 revolver
read repeating: You want a 22 revolver
Trayvon:Wat shoota??
read : dat me u ass u dnt know how ur chick look
Trayvon: Can fool meet me at da gym??
Trayvon :Bru om here
Trayvon: tell fool I got 80 for him right na
(NOTE: It seems he is buying a 22 caliber revolver according to above).
read: You know somebody with some 38
Trayvon: Yea 150
read: You like other stuff too
read : You got suin for the 80 or 90
Trayvon: That's how much U got??
Trayvon: U Wanna share a .380 w/(name blacked out)
read:who
read: wat with da money I gave you
Trayvon yeah nd he gon put in
read :How ima gt da fire
Trayvon yall gon split it
read: it's gne b at my crib
(NOTE: It seems he is selling a .38 caliber handgun here, and trying to talk person into "Sharing" a gun).
read:You want 150 4 the 38
Trayvon: Naw Im finna get it 2 late
From Extraction report # 5
Trayvon: U Wanna share a .380 w/(name blacked out)
read:who
read: wat with da money I gave you
Trayvon yeah nd he gon put in
read :How ima gt da fire
Trayvon yall gon split it
read: it's gne b at my crib
Trayvon: U wanna shar it w/(name blacked out again)
read: Na am finna cop a 38 4 a face
Taken from Extraction report # 8
read: You want a .22 revolver
Trayvon : yoo
NOTE: SOME IDIOTS ON THIS THREAD HAVE SUGGESTED MAYBE THESE WERE LEGAL GUN TRANSACTIONS. It is not legal for people to SHARE OWNERSHIP of a .38 handgun as Trayvon suggests above. (Smacks Morons in Face.)
3. DRUG ABUSE, on his own phone texts.Trayvon: Yea cause he got mo hits cause da 1st round he had me on the ground nd i couldn't do ntn.
Trayvon: naw my ol g say she dont want me home cause she think ima get in mo trouble *
Trayvon continued: fighting
read: WAT YHOU DID
Trayvon: : Fightn
Taken from Extraction report # 3
Read: When you gonna teach me how to fight?
(NOTE: Somebody is seeking Trayvon for fight training. This shows Trayvon is respected a bit as fighter by at least someone).
Taken From Extraction Report # 6
Trayvon: Tired and sore
read: mee too, but wat happen tah yuhh??
Trayvon : Fight
read: Y!?
Trayvon: Cause Man dat nigga snitched on me
[NOTE: He is claiming here to beat up a snitch]
read: Bae y yum always fightingg man, ya got suspended?
Trayvon:Naw we thumped afta school in a duckd off spot
read: Ohh Well Damee
Trayvon: I lost da 1st round but I won da 2nd and 3rd .....
read: Ohh so it was 3 rounds ? *Dames well at least yu won lol but yuu needa stop fightingg but forreal
Trayvon: Naw im not done wit fool..... ge gone have 2 see me a again
read: No Bae stop, yuu aint gonna bee satisfied till yuh suspended again huh?
Trayvon:Naw but he aint breed nuff 4 me, only his nose.... but afta dat im done
(NOTE: Notice Trayvon was not satisfied with a little blood. He wanted more blood).
@ Captain Kremmen,
Trayvon:Naw but he aint breed nuff 4 me, only his nose.... but afta dat im done
Your "CHILD" is upset because he ONLY MADE THE SNITCHES NOSE BLEED. Not enough blood for poor little Trayvon.. BOO HOO. I'd bet that "snitch" is glad Treyvon is not coming back to finish him off.
and also:read: Oh you smoke?
Trayvon : Yea do u??
Trayvon: y'all had smoked da rest.
Trayvon: Thats worse than smokin cause addiction to alcohol is worse than addiction to weed
read: U better be high talking a lot dat shit
Trayvon: Naw i aint smok 2day u just wanna act a ass
Trayvon: Can we smoke 1 last time??
Taken from Extraction Report # 2
friend: WAT U DID 2DAY
Trayvon: smoke and sleep
Trayvon: my mom just told me i gotta move with my dad. she just kicked me out
No, it really wan't. Martin's personal issues were not brought into the court case and Zimmerman's "word" was of only secondary importance. He didn't even testify; as is often the case, the defendants words are considered more likely to harm his case than help it. What primarily pointed toward self defense both on the night of the incident and during the trial was the strong physical evidence that pointed clearly to self defense.Undefined said:Seems to be a case of Zimmermans's word/record against the dead victim's record only...
Allowed? You have the wrong idea of what a neighborhood watch often is; He was self-appointed.Was there a check on his stability made when he was allowed to become a neighborhood watch person with a gun?
Interesting, I'd never heard of that. In the US though, there is a presumption of innocence of course, so "not proven" = "not guilty". Only through informal interviews with jurors afterward is it possible to get more specific.Does anyone know whether a verdict of "Not Proven" (as distinct from "Not Guilty") is still available to juries in Scotland...
It is my understanding that 'Not Proven' is an inaccurate description of what the jury believed, but if we assume for the sake of argument that it is accurate, perhaps it would have helped for those who are ignorant of how the legal systems works. People who understand how the legal system works generally understand why the verdict we got was correct (as a matter of law).If it was available to a US jury then, would such a verdict of "Not Proven" in that instance have 'satisfied'...the sense of 'justice-being-done' for both 'sides' on this?
No, it really wan't. Martin's personal issues were not brought into the court case and Zimmerman's "word" was of only secondary importance. He didn't even testify; as is often the case, the defendants words are considered more likely to harm his case than help it. What primarily pointed toward self defense both on the night of the incident and during the trial was the strong physical evidence that pointed clearly to self defense.
Allowed? You have the wrong idea of what a neighborhood watch often is; He was self-appointed.
Interesting, I'd never heard of that. In the US though, there is a presumption of innocence of course, so "not proven" = "not guilty". Only through informal interviews with jurors afterward is it possible to get more specific.
It is my understanding that 'Not Proven' is an inaccurate description of what the jury believed, but if we assume for the sake of argument that it is accurate, perhaps it would have helped for those who are ignorant of how the legal systems works. People who understand how the legal system works generally understand why the verdict we got was correct (as a matter of law).
http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/09/justice/george-zimmerman-girlfriend/index.html?hpt=hp_c2George Zimmerman's girlfriend is asking a judge to lift an order that blocks her from seeing him and says she doesn't want charges filed against him.
In a court document obtained by CNN Monday, Samantha Scheibe says she wants a no-contact provision against Zimmerman lifted so the couple can "talk and be together."
"I am not afraid of George in any manner and I want to be with him," she says.
Zimmerman was arrested on November 18 at Scheibe's Apopka, Florida, home after the two had a heated fight. According to a police report about the incident, Scheibe said that after an argument, Zimmerman broke a table with a shotgun and then pointed it at her "for a minute."
But in a signed affidavit filed by Zimmerman's attorney, Jayne Weintraub, Scheibe says Zimmerman "never pointed a gun at or toward my face in a threatening manner" and claims police misinterpreted her.
Yes.You do know it's common for abused and threatened people to retract statements and the like to "protect" those that hurt them?
no russ it only goes to to show what people were arguing than while you defended a killer. the crazy bastard has some extreme violent tendencies that put his self defense argument in rather uncredible waters.This thread is about people assuming this recent incident is evidence that Zimmerman murdered Martin. We wouldn't be discussing a random, minor domestic violence case otherwise.
Yeah.How dare he get shot at! The nerve of the man.
well when you threaten to kill people and have a long history of violence people are going to assume your going to follow through with your threat. zimmerman is nothing more than a murderous sociopathHow dare he get shot at! The nerve of the man.