scott3x said:
Some physicists and engineers -do- say that it couldn't have been accomplished in any other way. Steven Jones, who was a respected physics professor until he decided to openly disagree with the official story, has written a fair amount concerning why controlled demolition is only explanation that makes sense. And, aside from the Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, which currently boasts a total of 564 Arcitecture and Engineering professionals, as well as 3168 other supporters, we actually have a mechanical engineer who's written a few papers and co-authored others in this very forum- Tony Szamboti.
Forgive my ignorance, but I have yet to hear from one engineer on your side of the argument that has inspected the materials first-hand. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but to my knowledge, every engineer and/or architect who has "researched" the event has done so through watching news clips. That's not research. You need to be down there on the ground.
The Popular Mechanics study has been thoroughly debunked by 2 sites, 9/11 Research and prisonplanet.com.
I've seen it, and I'm very unimpressed. The 9/11 "research" team, as usual, does their research via videotape (not that PM didn't) and only cling to trivial details, circumstantial evidence that doesn't prove anything. Case in point is the part about Van Romero. The website is clinging to what he said as he first saw the collapses, where he mentions that it looks like it was brought down by explosives. Again, remember that Van Romero has only ever witnessed the collapses on film. He has never handled or inspected the wreckage. He was simply commenting on what he saw on film. And when he elaborated, he was called a liar by the website.
It's the standard Conspiracy Theorist MO: Take things out of context, and if they change their story even slightly, accuse them of lying. The website also sees some sort of importance in Romero's job, as if that has anything to do with anything.
And then there's the whole "steel buildings never fail from fire" argument, which is weaker than an anorexic smurf. Yes, we have yet to see a steel building fail due to fire. But consider this: We've yet to see a steel building survive the full force of a 737 impact
and fire. The only two instances we have of that are the Twin Towers, both of which fell.
I mean, use your head. The plane itself tremendously weakened the structure. It also seems to have destroyed (or effectively weakened) the fire-prevention systems in the elevator shafts (which would explain why that guy in the basement heard, felt, and even saw the effects of the fireball coming down the elevator shaft), and then burned hot enough to
weaken the steel to the point of collapse. It's ridiculous how Truthers, when they bang the "it failed from fire" drum, completely forget that the fucking things were hit by AIRPLANES, TOO!
I've personally found reasons to not just doubt their investigations, but to believe that they were half-baked farces, as Bill Manning, Fire Engineering's editor in chief stated in a well known article called $elling Out the Investigation.
Another paper-thin argument skewed to fit the Truther agenda. Mr. Manning mentions the spray-on fireproofing, and I'm glad he did, because (and perhaps it was too soon to know when this was written) we know now that the majority of the fireproofing was blown off during the impacts. And here's what Mr. Manning doesn't ask, among his myriad of questions: "Were these the first high-rises to be impacted by fully-loaded 737's?" The answer to that question would have been yes.
Sometimes people with insufficient data and a penchant for trusting the government can come to false conclusions...
PM did more research on the things that mattered than anyone aside from the government...perhaps moreso, since the first 9/11 report found that the funding for the attacks "wasn't important"...but we know why that is. It's because the funding came from Saudi Arabia...our ally.
But to your point, the same can be said about those on your side. People with insufficient data (read: Everyone on your side of the argument) and have a penchant for mistrusting the government, and a penchant for conspiracy theories, can come to false conclusions.
That claims is outside the domain of even this thread
. Anyway, I'm not sure of the answer to the above.
You can trust me on this. Even before airlines installed technology to make cellphones more reliable (this was post-9/11) you could use your cell on a flight. It wasn't always the best connection, and you could drop a call, but you could use it.
Anyway, I thought this post was supposed to show me compelling reasons...?