if i have need to blame her?
how many people here have blamed him? including the one lawyer here, ie YOU.
Where exactly have I blamed him specifically? I said she may or may not be guilty of murder. That it may or may not be self defense.
You know dam well (or should) what bad witness people make because we dont "record" events, we change them in our own minds. So couple fight and who is it really who picks up the weapon first? I saw it in myself when i was involved in a siege situation, i cant even rember coherantly what happened.
Are you suggesting that we ignore all witness testimony because it will be bad since people do not "record" events?
What I am saying is that no one, none of us know exactly what happened here. We have witnesses saying one thing and we have yet to wait for this to be investigated. But, everyone here is already taking sides based solely on "what if's".
And now we have you saying that witnesses make bad witnesses because they don't record events.
Yet you seem willing to convict HIM of domestic violence and excuse her on the basis of what a few media reports have said that eye witnesses reported. How many times have you herd people say after the fact "oh they were always fighting...." when before hand they either didnt even notice them or would have said they were compleatly normal again to rationalise what happened. The ned kelly syndrome
Show me where I have convicted him or her of anything. I have stated what the witnesses have stated to the police and what the police have divulged to the media. That is it. I have not condemned either of them because I have no idea what the hell went on in their home when the stabbing happened.
You and others, on the other hand, are taking sides as to who is guilty and who did what based solely on what you imagined may have happened. You seem hell bent to blame her because she is a woman and you feel that women get away with too much in the legal system and you have already discounted that she
may (emphasis added) have been a victim of domestic abuse, regardless of what people have told the police. She may or may not. What I am trying to tell you, several times now, is that to convict her for the reasons you have is silly. You don't know what happened. Blaming her because other women have not been tried or found not guilty due to the severe domestic violence of their cases shows an extreme level of bias from you. Which could be why you would make a bad witness because you are unable to separate other cases or stories or TV shows from each individual case.
Strip away all that you and others have imagined about this particular case and look at the bare facts that you have available to you. Then you will see what I have been saying. That she may or may not be guilty.
So anyway before i blame him for this and let her off the hook i want more than what people are saying after the fact. Like did anyone call the police during these surposed violent rampages? You want to see domestic violence you should have been in my house when we first moved in, the night we moved in the guy across the street chaced his wife with a hammer and then a few days latter stabbed her on OUR front porch and yes i called the cops every single time. THAT is a history of domestic violence, not some "oh he was violent" after the face from there naboures
Asguard, as you should well know, domestic violence is not always someone stabbing their spouse on the neighbour's front porch or chasing them down the street with a hammer. As you should be well aware, domestic violence can involve a variety of things that can be done to another. It can and does involve psychological, sexual, verbal and/or physical violence.
What you have basically done here is set a standard as to what constitutes domestic violence as per your experience and that it should only be recognised as domestic violence if the neighbours or victim calls the police and you have also set in black and white what constitutes a history of domestic violence as a result. That is wrong. Just because the neighbours may not have called the police does not mean that domestic violence was not an issue in that household.
I'll put it for you this way. What we have as recorded history of domestic violence (those who have reported to the police) is but the tip of the iceberg. 3/4 of the time, people do not call the police because they do not want to get involved or because they think it is none of their business or worse, they think he/she deserves it. That is the reality of life and one that the police and courts recognise. That is why most cases of domestic abuse never gets reported. You may have called the police, but can you be sure that your other neighbours did? Can you be sure that other people would have called the police? No, you cannot. And I can assure you, in my experience, the majority actually do not call the police because they think it is none of their business and they don't want to get involved.
Discounting what the witnesses may have experienced is also wrong of you. In short, you are discounting everything because it does not fit into the little box you have in your head about what constitutes domestic abuse and what is a history of domestic abuse. There is also quite a bit of sexual discrimination in your argument. You are condemning her based on your imagination or what you imagined happened (discounting all witness testimony in the process) because you think men get a raw deal in the courts and because you have particular beliefs about domestic violence and seem to think it only exists if someone reports it to the police and because no one reported this particular case to the police in the past, then you seem to think that it does not amount to domestic violence. You are wrong. You also show extreme prejudice and bias, not to mention sexism, in how you are debating this. You have already accused me condemning him when I have done no such thing. I have said that she may or may not be guilty and that she may or may not have been a victim of domestic abuse.
My advice? Stop reading between the lines and stop imagining what you think I am saying and actually read what has been said and work with that only. Condemning anyone based solely on your imagination is ridiculous.