no bells, im annoyed at the assumption.
Which assumption annoys you Asguard?
That she killed him because she found a
porn DVD? That she killed him because she apparently didn't want to be like
a porn star? That she killed him because she was apparently '
in that time of the month'? Or that witnesses and neighbours have advised and described that the relationship was abusive and that the neighbours and witnesses could recount that he had been abusive towards her in the past and that he had pulled a knife on her first and threatened to cut her - which is not an assumption by the way?
So which one annoys you?
Look at whats happened in Australia recently 3 cases recently of female partner kills male and from those 3 i dont think ANY where she was found guilty. Sure better 100 go free... but the system is broken.
Which 3 Asguard?
Are you upset that if a woman is found to have been battered for many years and finally defends herself against her abuser and ends up killing him, that it indicates that the system is broken because she is found not guilty of murder?
In this instance, witnesses have said that he pulled the knife on her first and threatened to cut her. If that did happen, then she did not commit murder but defended herself.
Recently there was a study done which found that (and these figures are from memory) 20% of men though that a women deserved it if she was hit. There was OUTRAGE in the Advertiser about it, how in this day an age could anyone assume that a victom of domestic violence deserved it. However a letter to the editor the next day from the head of the men's health foundation was quite intersting. As he pointed out 80% belived that she didnt deserve it but the same study found that 67% of people belived that if a women hit a man then HE deserved it.
Which has what to do with this thread?
This woman may have defended herself against an abuser who was threatening her with a knife. I would imagine that 99% would find that she was defending herself.
As for the survey... It is a different subject matter. We both know that men do not deserve to be abused in their home. So what exactly are you trying to say to me here? That she should have let him cut her?
Thats more than half (well more than half, if that was election results i think the only polie who came close to that margin was Turnbul) belive that its ok to hit your male partner and this same statistic keeps being replicated in the number of women who are convicted of murder when the male partner is killed.
The only time that a woman has 'gotten away' with killing her partner or ex is if it was found that she had been subjected to years of abuse and suffering from psychological and mental trauma as a result of the sustained and consistent abuse. I do not see a correlation between that and women getting away with murder. Most women who kill their partners in Australia end up going to jail. Very few are able to 'get off' because of domestic abuse.
Now its nice to see that mens health issues are finally comming out of the closet (this letter followed an artical a couple of days before on the disparity in brest cancer to prostate cancer funding) but its still a joke that the automatic assumptions are that in domestic murder cases either way there is an assumption that the male partner is violent (and either thats why she killed him or thats why he killed her).
Which has nothing to do with this thread Asguard.
What we have here is a thread about a
possibly abused woman
maybe defending herself against an abusive partner and then we have you jumping to even more conclusions and wailing on women who abuse men and how women get away with murder, etc. Do you think that is appropriate? And then, to make it even better, you start going on about men's health issues - something completely irrelevant and off topic. If you want to discuss the equality of men and women in the legal system and health system, you could start another thread maybe?
We know the system is not fair to both sides. But complaining about women getting away with murder, in a thread about a woman who hasn't even faced trial yet and been found guilty or innocent, complaining about what the witnesses witnessed - that she was abused - and somehow discounting it and bringing up how often men are abused, etc.. really.. Are you serious?
Why don't you wait for the trial of this woman, wait for the evidence to be presented, before you start wailing about women getting away with murder in domestic violence cases where women are abused and defend themselves by sometimes killing the partner, eh?
Edit to add: especially concidering that the police say that the biggest motive for murder is finatial
Amongst other things.
This hasn't gone to trial yet and no one knows any more than what has been presented in this thread. She may have been abused and she may not have been.
If she was defending herself, as witnesses have claimed, then no, she should not be found guilty.