So it is a pissing contest, but those who know GR don't necessarily believe it is reality? nah, you beileve it is reality as does Markus, I bet. Not that there is anything wrong with that, lol.
Why two mass attracts each other?
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One more time, photons move at constant speed. They aren't 'little balls" that get "accelerated".
Are you really so dumb? Playing games more like. Who said anything about them being like little balls? You are confusing it with things being accelerated by "forces" applied instead of just being accelerated by gravity. Whether their speed changes or direction changes OR NOT is "acceleration" in gravity context if they are being affected by gravity. You are stupid troll for not knowing that. Your "corrections" are a laughing stock, ignorant troll. The example of the photon trapped just above the bh horizon is yet to be answered by Markus Hanke. You are not needed or wanted.
You did, by claiming that photons accelerate.
Doesn't matter, light does not accelerate in a gravitational field, it propagates at constant speed, no matter how often you repeat Farsight's "discoveries".
Markus didn't answer because there is no such thing. Did you make this up all by yourself?
No, it's a pissing contest between those who think general relativity is defined a certain way and Farsight who thinks general relativity is defined in a very different way.
Why do you need to lie like that? This is what I posted:
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It clearly does not say "the photon accelerates". It clearly means to say that the photon is stopped from escaping. And that is because it is "being gravitationally accelerated towards bh horizon simultaneously" as it is trying to propagate away. That is why its going nowhere. The professional literature describes that scenario. You lie and take trolling liberties like that, and management lets you keep doing that? Stupid management or just incompetent to leave you spreading ignorant poison "faux corrections" everywhere you go?
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Light and photons are the same thing.
Did you make this up all by yourself?
Definitely not in the literature.
So is his new found disciple, Undefined.
How old are you? Haven't you ever heard of a situation of balanced factors resulting in a stalemate situation where no motion occurs but the factors are still active in respectively opposing directions for a net result of "zero" change of motion? Maybe you are not a troll, just a ignorant youngster pretending to be a grown up? If that is it, maybe you will learn something if you stop playing games with posts and physics facts? Hope so.
No, I don't think that the above makes any sense, like everything else that you have posted. I do know , though, how to calculate photon trajectories in the vicinity of a black hole. You could learn that too, if you were willing to take a class. Because all that you have posted on this subject shows that you do not know anything on the subject.
I am no one's "disciple". Especially not yours. I am trying to improve my naive understandings by asking people to explain what they mean without playing games with jargon which explains nothing about what is actually happening. Just using some theory doesn't explain the facts, just the theory interpretations of those facts. So far you have flunked at all levels. No "disciples" for you!
Calculate what? A theoretical interpretation of what you think should happen? Maybe if you can explain what is actually happening to that trapped photon it would be a better use of your maths and time? Come back to me when you have something worth anything.
Your posts show you to be Farsight's disciple, you post the same misconceptions about GR , he does. I could recommend a couple of good books on the subject, your time would be better spent learning.
My posts show I asked pryzyk if what Farsight said was true (about space-time being an all-time-included analytical construct for motion in space). My posts showed that the discussion was confusing until that is made clear for my naive understandings of that. My posts show I ask questions and make suggestions in discussions which I am trying to get people from both sides of discussions to make clearer to me for improving my naive understandings. But your posts show you play games and pretend to know things and to correct people but never actually do it honestly, instead you lie and strawman. Your attitude to people like me (who ask questions to make things clearer for themselves) is to insult and waste my time with your pretend physics which makes no sense to the other experts here. Try looking at what your own posts show and stop pretending and trolling and playing games like a infant.
I simply pointed out that your claim of "light accelerating in a gravitational well" was not a question and that it was wrong. I also pointed out earlier that light speed does not "become zero" in the vicinity of a bh, contrary to your claim. You don't have to get all twisted in your knickers, I was just trying to help you.
You "corrected" something I never claimed. I already pointed to where it was you who claimed it, not me. I only said it was "being gravitationally accelerated" in a direction inwards to horizon which was in equal and opposite effect to photon's (light wave "effectively "stuck" there going nowhere) outward propagation effect and direction. You made up your mind and corrected what you made up. It did not correct anything except your strawman there, because I never just said "the photon accelerates" like you pretend.
I asked why the photon being acted upon by opposing factors in opposite directions is not considered at zero 'c' if all frames agree it's going nowhere? You keep making stuff up and then "correcting" your made up stuff. Keep it, it's no use to anybody when you play lying games like that. I trust others to tell me straight and explain to me straight so my naive understandings can improve. You just muddy and poison any sense the discussions have in them. That is trolling. You helping no one. I can ignore you and your pretend knowledge while you keep doing that. Don't get your knickers in a knot just because people laugh at you and ignore your "corrections" based on your own lies and strawman.Tach said:
Two crackpot questions / statements for which there is no answer <shrug>. I can suggest some good textbooks, not very difficult to read....
You know nothing and pretend you know anything worth explaining straight so I can understand what you claim. Why lie and play games and troll and expose your ignorance like you been doing so far? Nothing better to do?
I don't know , pointing out that you are very similar to Farsight in terms of making up fringe stuff but much rudder?
I ask questions of both sides in a discussion for clarity to improve my naive understandings. You just want to muddy everything up so you can pretend to "know" and "correct" when you are ignorant of what is involved. You seem to be the "fringe kook" here so far, you act like it very well too. That's why I ignore your off-topic "corrections" and lies and strawman pretense. Don't get your knickers in a knot just because I think you are a fringe kook. Someone has to be I suppose. It just happens it's you in this site.
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