Why the belief?
- Thread starter praty
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I'm not.
I am simply pointing our how fear plays a part in many "real" things as well
why attribute belief in immortality to the supernatural?
The link yoyo provided shows how it drives cyrogenics, the pursuit of fame and even common genealogy?
As things stand, the only thing there is no evidence for is for your claim that there is no chance for getting any evidence
I have... and I repeat: Praty has not said at any point that the solution is necessarily farcical, nor can anything he has said be implied as such.
Feel free to point out where the implication lies in the OP that such a solution is necessarily farcical?
Or shall I just chalk this up to you being unable to provide a counter (or perhaps an apology) when you have been called out? :shrug:
Fear part - agreed, but what are you implying?
My question was why humanity sticks with version of afterlife provided in Scriptures written at the time of infancy of our species and which is pretty much supernatural. No scientific research would be able to concur the statements made in these books.
Right on!:bravo:
For starters, because of all the fun we have here on earth, and wish it could last forever.
Has anyone you loved already died? Did you not wish they would continue to be alive, so that you could continue to love eachother?
"Admitting it's not possible to ever find out" would require omniscience.
If anything, we have the fear that we could find out: we're either afraid that we might not like the answer (hence we don't search); or we're afraid because we know we haven't given the search all the resources and attention that we could.
So what if science wouldn't be able to concur the statements made in those ancient books?
If you really want to give it ALL the resources you can, you can always try death and then let us know what you find out...
Sure. Many people consider death to be the standard and ultimate test of oneself.
That I'm not arguing, if science brings about a revolution and life span of humans becomes near 'forever', not considering the biological hazard it'll cause, that'll be jolly. All I'm saying that all religions providing this by the agent of supernatural are equal glimpses of untrue.
Er, that makes them false and fiction and disqualified to be believed by humans.
That means that those who do believe the scriptures, and/or in the afterlife
are not humans.
:shrug:
No but as conscious cosmos they should know better than to believe the untrue, having developed a perfect tool against it - science.
And how many have "confirmed" life after death?
It's not that I'm slow. It's that you're asking me to agree to something, I never said by using general terms. Nevermind that right now though.
The question is almost making sense now. A solution to death? No, true immortality would be the solution to death.
I can see how his wording is unfortunate, yes.
I don't want to make this into another thread about whether God exists or not. I will ask you this instead: Do you think, it would make sense that humans uses the idea of an afterlife as a defense mechanism against the fear of death?
Well that's not what I meant. It's not the fear of death itself that creates a belief. It's the human mind that creates it because of the fear of death.
Yea and you're saying it like it's a fact without backing it up with some sort of evidence.
Everything that is part of us—our cells, tissues, organs and organ systems—has come about over billions of years because it proved successful in the great survival stakes during our perilous evolutionary descent (ascent) with modification. The brain, being no exception, evolved, in part, to allow a creature to learn from what happens in its life, to retain key elements that could influence future actions. We are geared for self-preservation. We will do anything to avoid facing the possibility that who we are now cannot continue.
We ourselves are mainly the cause that we are interested in. The self is preoccupied with staying alive, which is why our species is still around today. It is a prime biological function to be afraid of death, and, so, the self, as thus contrived, is able to fully play its crucial survival role. We want to equip our brain with a soul that offers us an escape when the brain dies since the self cannot come to terms with its own extinction.
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We ourselves are mainly the cause that we are interested in. The self is preoccupied with staying alive, which is why our species is still around today. It is a prime biological function to be afraid of death, and, so, the self, as thus contrived, is able to fully play its crucial survival role. We want to equip our brain with a soul that offers us an escape when the brain dies since the self cannot come to terms with its own extinction.
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yoyo,
Ditto!
I think that it is implied, humans mean human mind. As for evidence part, what I meant was most people who believe it, do it because they fear death and wanna live on somehow, that ain't a fact?
And thanks for the article earlier, all knowledge is food for me!
Ditto!
I think that it is implied, humans mean human mind. As for evidence part, what I meant was most people who believe it, do it because they fear death and wanna live on somehow, that ain't a fact?
And thanks for the article earlier, all knowledge is food for me!
You're welcome
The problem with implying stuff is that [the nice religious people] here on the forums can and will (sometimes deliberately i suspect) misunderstand every little thing unless you spoonfeed it to them. No it's not a fact. It requires God not to exist and that's not a discussion you want to start unless you want your thread ruined. Just a bit of advice
The problem with implying stuff is that [the nice religious people] here on the forums can and will (sometimes deliberately i suspect) misunderstand every little thing unless you spoonfeed it to them. No it's not a fact. It requires God not to exist and that's not a discussion you want to start unless you want your thread ruined. Just a bit of advice