spidergoat said:
geistkiesel,
Bullshit.
You rightly suspect the Bush administration of a cover up, but then you go way off in left field someplace and make totally unsubstantiated conclusions from incomplete evidence. Just one look at GWB's face after he was told, and it's clear, they were arrogant in their complacence and caught off-guard by the attack.
Your amature analysis of the WTC collapse is incorrect. The fireproofing on the steel girders broke off due to the airplane's impact. The fire was enough to weaken the steel, and cause a catastrophic collapse, which, due to gravity and the huge mass involved, fell almost straight down. Period.
Yes, the Bush administration took advantage of the attack to further their pre-determined goals, but they didn't plan 9/11. Maybe they just ignored the warning signs because they wanted something like this to happen.
If they ignored the warning signs then criminal accounting is not necessarily excused.I posted some links that should be enough to maintain that there is a probable cause to believe in some criminal activity.
If they had pre-determined goals to invade Iraq and Afghanistan are you just going to shrug off any conspiracy theory? You do not have direct and specific information that the Bush gang was not involved in the mess.
I must retreat on my insistance that the uniform collapse required a uniform distributionm over the entire floor. I was not aware of the unique construction of the WTC as some have pointed out to me, including your self.
However, you cannot simply ignore the eyewitness accounts especially those of the firemen who were universally consistent in their suspicions that the collapse was a controlled demolition. The matter is too crucial to shrug off the worst case scenario for if you err the conlcusions would be catastrophic beyond imagination.
You are aware of conditions and events that smell to high heaven. This thread being focussed on the WTC the reference to the Pentagon and Shankesville crash might help you. The total absence of evidence of aircraft crash debris ought to make you sit upright and begin screaming or something else appropriate. You must have been aware of this link before now, but take another look.
No aluminum debris that should have been visible all over the place, no fan jet engines (9 feet in diameter), no landing gear, no tail or wing assemblies, no fires expected when the 8000 gallons of jet fuel spewed on the Pentagon from the supposed impact, no body parts or remains of passenger, crew or Islamic Fundamentalist Terrorists. Ditto for the Shankesville, Pa., crash
Shanksville pictures=No Boeing 757 crash debris
"FB I agents" confiscated a security tape from commercial gas station minutes after the Pentagon event. How did they know the tape was there unless they had scoped out the possibility of incriminating evidence before the attack.
Pentagon attack where less is more
Look at the holes in the building. Where is the fucking crash debris? This attack could not have been perpetrated without aid and comfort from the highest levels of government. The WTC is more complex to analyze, but the contradictions of witnesses, the failure of full disclosure by FEMA, the rapid disappearance of the tower metal fragments, are telling us to sit up and take notice.
One FBI agent stated (pre-911) that he thought his group was being sabotaged by FBI hierarchy when denying his anti-terrorist group permission to get a search warrant of suspected terrorists' laptop. He wsas in Colleen Crowley FBI team -Crowley was legal director. Here is her letter to the Director of the FBI. This isn't some lefty government hating street fighter, this is from a veteran FBI agent.
Here is Colleen Crowley ex-FBI agent who got blindsided by FBI eadership prior to 911
Geistkiesel